Airbrushing Water-Base Paints
|
Scott H. Haycock
Tim,
If you look at pages 2 & 3 of Brian's post, you'll find some small 2 to 4 bottle caddies.
Scott Haycock
|
|
|
|
Nelson Moyer
I wrote an article on my paint booth for the April 2011 NMRA Magazine. It’s a Paasche paint booth. It comes packed flat in a box, and you have to bolt together. I made a stand for it and vented it through a bathroom vent. It’s a little smaller than I wanted but it’s served well.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Bud Rindfleisch
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 9:06 AM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Airbrushing Water-Base Paints
Nelson, I like your metal paint spray booth! Custom made or store bought? Bud Rindfleisch
|
|
|
|
Bud Rindfleisch
Nelson, I like your metal paint spray booth! Custom made or store bought? Bud Rindfleisch |
|
|
|
Nelson Moyer
Those are paint bottle holders, and they aren’t convenient to use on the workbench where space is at a premium. I made paint bottle holders by drilling holes for Floquil and Poly Scale in a 1x6 and laminating another 1x6 for the base. I’ve also used 2x4s, drilling holes with an auger bit and a brace, and since you don’t drill all the way through, there’s no need for a separate base. The rest of my paint bottle collection is stored in tops of printer paper boxes, which serve as nice flats that can be placed in drawers.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 2:52 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Airbrushing Water-Base Paints
Tom you mean like these. https://motrakmodelsusa.com/products.html#!/Masonite-Products/c/40570092/offset=0&sort=normal Brian J. Carlson
|
|
|
|
Nelson Moyer
LOL. They’re so easy to make I can’t imagine a market for them. I already had a collection of circular bits, and the wood is scrap from other projects.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 1:14 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Airbrushing Water-Base Paints
|
|
|
|
Nelson Moyer
I read that shaking acrylics introduces fine air bubbles, which is undesirable, and the recommendation was to stir and swirl the bottle to mix. I do both with acrylics, first stir to break up any sediment, the swirl in a tight circle with the bottom of the bottle resting on the workbench or paint booth. Swirling is a technique for mixing protein solutions where shaking or vortexiing may denature protein, but it works on all sorts of solutions in the laboratory as well ss for mixing paint. Air is the enemy of paint, and introduction of air reduces shelf life. I use more vigorous mixing for organic solvent based paints, but not for acrylics.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 2:13 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Airbrushing Water-Base Paints
Jeff there is a commercial solution - vortex paint mixer. A good one will cost around a hundred dollars. Since I already have a paint shaker (photo) I have not been willing to make the investment in the
vortex type.
|
|
|
|
Not the same thing Brian. A caddy is for one or two items. It has to take up minimal workspace. On 9/26/2022 3:51 PM, Brian Carlson via groups.io wrote: Tom you mean like these. https://motrakmodelsusa.com/products.html#!/Masonite-Products/c/40570092/offset=0&sort=normal --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
|
|
|
Tom you mean like these. https://motrakmodelsusa.com/products.html#!/Masonite-Products/c/40570092/offset=0&sort=normal
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Brian J. Carlson On Sep 26, 2022, at 2:14 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
-- Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga NY |
|
|
|
Lester Breuer
Jeff there is a commercial solution - vortex paint mixer. A good one will cost around a hundred dollars. Since I already have a paint shaker (photo) I have not been willing to make the investment in the vortex type.
Lester Breuer 
|
|
|
|
Those are great! You probably could sell them on Ebay (or Amazon!) to modelers -- sized for each brand. :-) On 9/26/2022 2:08 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote:
--
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
|
|
|
Nelson Moyer
After knocking over a few bottles of paint and Tenax, I made caddies with wide bases to hold the different sizes of paint and glue bottles I use. I drilled through the top piece, then glued that piece onto a base block. I only use Vallejo once to get the right color of red on a Cudahy reefer ends and roof, so I haven’t made a caddie for Vallejo bottles yet. Most of my painting is airbrushing in the paint booth, and I don’t use the caddies there, just when painting at the workbench. I also use a caddie to hold Micro Set and Micro Sol, which are especially prone to getting knocked over without support. The photos shows my caddie collection.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Jeff Skeels
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 11:37 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Airbrushing Water-Base Paints
Thanks Nelson, that's basically, what I have been doing, but my mixing tools aren't quite as sophisticated. Actually, I have on occasion spilled paint while pulling the dropper portion off of the bottle. I'm looking at a method of mixing that avoids pulling the dropper or hand shaking. I have some thoughts on what I may experiment with and will share with the group if I succeed.
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S10, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone
|
|
|
|
Years ago I bought an inexpensive, battery powered paint mixer from Micromark, and I use it for every brand of paint and it works wonders. In fact, I bought a second one after the first one finally died after about 15 years of use. One thing I have learned is never to put un-used paint from a session back into the original bottle. It's just asking for trouble. This is especially true for acrylic paints -- limit the bottle's exposure to air! :-) On 9/25/2022 9:15 PM, Lester Breuer wrote: Jeff asked what method I use to mix Vallejo paints in their bottle? --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
|
|
|
Jeff Skeels
Sorry, my last post was to be a reply to Lester's post on mixing paint. My apologies to both Lester and Nelson.
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S10, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone
|
|
|
|
Jeff Skeels
Thanks Nelson, that's basically, what I have been doing, but my mixing tools aren't quite as sophisticated. Actually, I have on occasion spilled paint while pulling the dropper portion off of the bottle. I'm looking at a method of mixing
that avoids pulling the dropper or hand shaking. I have some thoughts on what I may experiment with and will share with the group if I succeed.
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S10, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone
|
|
|
|
Curt Fortenberry
I think the tip for the nut was from Phil Flory (Flory Models UK). He recommended marine grade stainless steel nuts. I've done that as he suggested. I think it works great. Curt Fortenberry |
|
|
|
Scott H. Haycock
I read somewhere about putting a small nut in Vallejo style bottles to aid in mixing via shaking. Don't use a round object such as a ball bearing- it will clog the tip!
Scott Haycock
|
|
|
|
Lester Breuer
Dean I purchase mine at the local hobby shop which does do mail order. They stock both Vallejo Model Air and Model Color. I also buy Vallejo at Hobby Lobby; however, limited colors available and not always both Model Air and Model Color.
The shop: Scale Model Supplies |
|
|
|
Lester Breuer
Jeff asked what method I use to mix Vallejo paints in their bottle?
Jeff I mix the Vallejo paint in their bottle by first shaking the bottle as any paint. And, then removing the top of the dropper bottle and using a stirring tool I put inside the bottle and stir it manually. I have included photos of my stirring tools. The three are: the cupped one from a measuring spoon from a chemistry set, one with a slot that do not remember where I obtained and the third a brass wire flatten on one end with a hammer to make the flat and the other end dipped in a plastic tool coating material available at the hardware store. The other photo shows top remove and one of the stirring tolls inside an empty bottle for photo. Lester Breuer 
|
|
|
|
Nelson Moyer
The local Hobby Lobby started carrying Vallejo when Model Master went away. I don’t remember if it’s Model Color or Model Air or both, since I don’t use acrylics.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Dean
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 7:00 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Airbrushing Water-Base Paints
Does anyone have a good on-line source for Vallejo acrylic paints? My LHS (two hours away) has only a few colors in stock and I haven't been able to locate an on-line source with the colors I see recommended for model railroad use. Thanks
in advance! |
|
|
|
All products from outside the US are still facing stocking issues and I don't see an improvement after two years +. I resell both MIG Ammo and Tamiya, and it took some work to ensure my entire product line was full. My fill rates on product has been in the 50% range which is terrible.
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Kevin NGMC On 2022-09-18 18:59, Dean wrote:
Does anyone have a good on-line source for Vallejo acrylic paints? My --
Kevin Macomber NGMC (717) 474-8399 www.narrowgaugemodeling.com |
|
|