Lateral Running Boards


Guy Wilber
 

Ken,

There are no specifics within the text or drawings, but I would venture to say that that latitudinal running boards would not have been required on a tarred canvas roof.    

Regards,

Guy




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Ken Adams
 

Guy

What if the caboose roof was tarred canvas? 
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Ken Adams
Covid Variants may come and go but I choose to still live mostly in splendid Shelter In Place solitude
Location: About half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io


Nelson Moyer
 

SFRD installed them in back of the hatches.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 9:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Lateral Running Boards

 

Not Eric, but the reefer hatches are in the way. 

Brian J. Carlson 



On Sep 19, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Steve Stull via groups.io <winslow7076@...> wrote:



Eric;

 

Was there any reason they were not required on reefers with metal roofs?  That seems like one of most potentially dangerous situations of all.  

 

Steve Stull

winslow7076

 

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 06:56:10 AM PDT, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

“Latitudinal Running Boards”, which is the official nomenclature of The ICC, The MCBA, The ARA and The AAR, were never mandated on house cars with exposed wood roofs, nor refrigerator cars with metal roofs.  

 

 

 

 


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Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Guy Wilber
 

 Ken Adams asked:

"Is there an official name or generally accepted name for the very short "Latitudinal Running Board" used on caboose roofs located where the caboose end ladder reached the caboose roof?"

Yes; again, they were known as a latitudinal running board.  The same rules applied within the requirements; if the roof was exposed wood they were not required, if the roof was metal they were required.  


"Granted that the ICC, The MCBA, The ARA and The AAR may not have had much regulatory authority over cabooses as designs varied for each railroad. Still was there common terminology?"

The requirements for cabooses within Safety Appliance Act of 1911 were mandated and governed by ICC.   The Interchange Rules of the MCBA, the ARA and the AAR did not specifically address safety appliances on cabooses until the post 1960 era when the pooling of cabooses commenced. 

Guy Wilber
Sparks, Nevada 


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Steve Stull
 

Brian, Eric;

I thank You both for the info.  I was thinking along the line of the icing platform itself, and didn't get my head 
around the thought that it may not be referred to as the lateral.

Not crazy after all, just a little damaged :)

Thanks guys.

Steve Stull
winslow7076

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 07:39:52 AM PDT, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:


Additionally, some reefers had a wood platform around the ice hatches.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 9:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Lateral Running Boards

 

Not Eric, but the reefer hatches are in the way. 

Brian J. Carlson 



On Sep 19, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Steve Stull via groups.io <winslow7076@...> wrote:



Eric;

 

Was there any reason they were not required on reefers with metal roofs?  That seems like one of most potentially dangerous situations of all.  

 

Steve Stull

winslow7076

 

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 06:56:10 AM PDT, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

“Latitudinal Running Boards”, which is the official nomenclature of The ICC, The MCBA, The ARA and The AAR, were never mandated on house cars with exposed wood roofs, nor refrigerator cars with metal roofs.  

 

 

 

 


--
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Ken Adams
 

Is there an official name or generally accepted name for the very short "Latitudinal Running Board" used on caboose roofs located where the caboose end ladder reached the caboose roof?  

Granted that the ICC, The MCBA, The ARA and The AAR may not have had much regulatory authority over cabooses as designs varied for each railroad. Still was there common terminology?
--
Ken Adams
Covid Variants may come and go but I choose to still live mostly in splendid Shelter In Place solitude
Location: About half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io


Eric Hansmann
 

Additionally, some reefers had a wood platform around the ice hatches.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 9:22 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Lateral Running Boards

 

Not Eric, but the reefer hatches are in the way. 

Brian J. Carlson 



On Sep 19, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Steve Stull via groups.io <winslow7076@...> wrote:



Eric;

 

Was there any reason they were not required on reefers with metal roofs?  That seems like one of most potentially dangerous situations of all.  

 

Steve Stull

winslow7076

 

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 06:56:10 AM PDT, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

“Latitudinal Running Boards”, which is the official nomenclature of The ICC, The MCBA, The ARA and The AAR, were never mandated on house cars with exposed wood roofs, nor refrigerator cars with metal roofs.  

 

 

 

 


--
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Brian Carlson
 

Not Eric, but the reefer hatches are in the way. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Sep 19, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Steve Stull via groups.io <winslow7076@...> wrote:


Eric;

Was there any reason they were not required on reefers with metal roofs?  That seems like one of most potentially dangerous situations of all.  

Steve Stull
winslow7076

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 06:56:10 AM PDT, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

“Latitudinal Running Boards”, which is the official nomenclature of The ICC, The MCBA, The ARA and The AAR, were never mandated on house cars with exposed wood roofs, nor refrigerator cars with metal roofs.  

 

 

 



--
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Steve Stull
 

Eric;

Was there any reason they were not required on reefers with metal roofs?  That seems like one of most potentially dangerous situations of all.  

Steve Stull
winslow7076

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 06:56:10 AM PDT, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

“Latitudinal Running Boards”, which is the official nomenclature of The ICC, The MCBA, The ARA and The AAR, were never mandated on house cars with exposed wood roofs, nor refrigerator cars with metal roofs.  

 

 

 



Eric Hansmann
 

Guy Wilber wrote:

 

“Latitudinal Running Boards”, which is the official nomenclature of The ICC, The MCBA, The ARA and The AAR, were never mandated on house cars with exposed wood roofs, nor refrigerator cars with metal roofs.  

 

 

 

Guy,

 

Thanks for sharing the official nomenclature for the Latitudinal Running Boards. I keep mixing it up. Bill Welch used to set me straight on the terminology, but it’s been awhile since his last correction.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN


Eric Hansmann
 

Those end running boards were only required on cars with metal roofs. This was required from the earliest time metal roofs were implemented. 

Look closely at the cars without the end running boards. They have wood roofs. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Sep 19, 2022, at 1:35 AM, Scott H. Haycock <shhaycock@...> wrote:

Folks,

In the 1943 photo by Jack Delano that has been under discussion lately, I notice several cars without laterals. When, if ever, were laterals mandated?

Thanks,

Scott Haycock


Guy Wilber
 

Scott Haycock wrote:

“In the 1943 photo by Jack Delano that has been under discussion lately, I notice several cars without laterals. When, if ever, were laterals mandated?”

Scott,

“Latitudinal Running Boards”, which is the official nomenclature of The ICC, The MCBA, The ARA and The AAR, were never mandated on house cars with exposed wood roofs, nor refrigerator cars with metal roofs.  

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada 


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Scott H. Haycock
 

Folks,

In the 1943 photo by Jack Delano that has been under discussion lately, I notice several cars without laterals. When, if ever, were laterals mandated?

Thanks,

Scott Haycock