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Nice view of dunnage used to load bombs into boxcars
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C J Wyatt
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:05 AM, Bob Chaparro wrote:
This photo may go with the original photo post:Thanks,Bob. I was wondering if other pictures were taken, but I was unsucessful in finding one. Your picture is showing bomb loading at the Cornhusker Ordinance Plant in Grand Island, Nebraska. For those interested in WWII traffic, here is a bit of history for the plant: Cornhusker Ordnance Plant (Grand Island, Neb.) [RG0825.AM] | History Nebraska Jack Wyatt |
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C J Wyatt
I should have mentioned that the destination of the boxcars of bombs was Newport News.
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C J Wyatt
I wonder. The photo is dated 1/6/44.
In a Southern Railway Asheville Division Conductor's Train Book, I have a consist of a train with 25 boxcars of bombs departing Asheville NC and arriving Spencer NC at 5:05 am on 1/4/1944. The consist has one NKP boxcar, NKP 16828. I wonder if the door is consistent with that series. That is the only spotting feature I see to work with. Jack Wyatt |
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Wallace Steinbrecher
Not a naval round or an artillery projectile. Does not have the bourrelets to engage the rifling in the tube. They look like standard 500 lb. general purpose (GP) bombs.
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Normally stored and shipped unfused and without a tail package. If they are GP bombs, they would have yellow striping to indicate they contain a high explosive payload. Wallace Steinbrecher On Wednesday, September 28, 2022, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
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Benjamin Hom
Scott McDonald wrote: "Being in Virginia would those be naval shells? Looks like they have collars on them to help move them around I am guessing?" Philip Dove replied: "I am certain the bomb is a bomb 1) because of its shape. 2) bombs tend to be described by weight, naval shells by caliber. 3) The location does not support the idea of it being a naval munition as all the fighting was away from the USA so almost all munitions needs shipping anyway. The hoops around the casing were to do with handling and removed before final use. The bombs are not fused and probably also lack tail fins." Agreed. These also lack the rotating band found on projectiles that engages the rifling of the gun. Ben Hom |
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Philip Dove
I think if you look at the way the Guy is balanced the bomb or casing is more or less wedged where it is. Otherwise l think he would fall backwards, though of course the photo only catches a moment in time and perhaps the guy fell flat on his back moments later. I am certain the bomb is a bomb 1) because of its shape. 2)bombs tend to be described by weight, naval shells by calibre. 3) The location does not support the idea of it being a naval munition as all the fighting was away from the USA so almost all munitions needs shipping anyway. The hoops around the casing were to do with handling and removed before final use. The bombs are not fused and probably also lack tail fins. Did the US export empty casings for the British to fill when they got to the UK? In the first world war the British had shell filling factories, presumably filling cases cast, and manufactured elsewhere. |
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Dave Nelson
Look at the ease at which that man is holding that shell. My bet is it is an empty casing and it is being shipped to some location where more exciting material will be added.
Dave Nelson
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louis Van Winkle
That would be a good car for a "Do Not Hump" sign.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 5:04 PM Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote:
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Scott
Being in Virgina would those be naval shells? Looks like they have collars on them to help move them around I am guessing?
Neat picture. Scott McDonald |
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From the lettering on the inside, perhaps NKP?
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 4:03 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Nice view of dunnage used to load bombs into boxcars CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.
Hi List Members, "500 lb. demolition bombs in railroad car. Note chucking and number of tiers of bombs. 216 bombs to the car. Official photograph U.S. Army Signal Corps, Hampton Roads Port of Embarkation, Newport News, Virginia" Nice view of dunnage used to load bombs into boxcars in 1944 https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcatalog.archives.gov%2Fid%2F138926206&data=05%7C01%7Csmithbf%40auburn.edu%7Ce10f578524854657535608daa0cbe7c8%7Cccb6deedbd294b388979d72780f62d3b%7C1%7C0%7C637999094868802869%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jYCMvS3VMzZWuYvi95%2BuQ2QyolkggpONsxXhrmVZE2I%3D&reserved=0 Enjoy! Claus Schlund |
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Louis Van Winkle
That would be a good car for a "Do Not Hump" sign. On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 5:04 PM Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote: Hi List Members, |
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Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
"500 lb. demolition bombs in railroad car. Note chucking and number of tiers of bombs. 216 bombs to the car. Official photograph U.S. Army Signal Corps, Hampton Roads Port of Embarkation, Newport News, Virginia" Nice view of dunnage used to load bombs into boxcars in 1944 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/138926206 Enjoy! Claus Schlund |
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