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Photo: Log Load (1942)
thanks Craig
On 10/4/2022 12:16 PM, Craig Wilson wrote:
Color photos show them painted black.Craig Wilson
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
I forgot to ask -- Were the LS&I flat cars painted black, or an oxide red color ?
On 10/3/2022 2:56 PM, lstt100 wrote:
LS&I 6284, part of 100 cars LS&I 6200-6299 acquired from CNW secondhand in 1953. Built by Western Steel Car & Foundry in 1922, former C&NW 40001-41019 series odd numbers only. LS&I acquired two more groups from same CNW series, 48 cars LS&I 6300-6347 acquired secondhand in 1953, and 25 cars LS&I 6348-6373 acquired secondhand in 1958.
Daniel Holbrook
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
lstt100
LS&I 6284, part of 100 cars LS&I 6200-6299 acquired from CNW secondhand in 1953. Built by Western Steel Car & Foundry in 1922, former C&NW 40001-41019 series odd numbers only. LS&I acquired two more groups from same CNW series, 48 cars LS&I 6300-6347 acquired secondhand in 1953, and 25 cars LS&I 6348-6373 acquired secondhand in 1958.
Daniel Holbrook
Daniel Holbrook
Craig Wilson
Ex-C&NW and yes can be done using Red Caboose model. There is a photo of LS&I 6337 on page 23 of the Henry Maywald "Classic Freight Cars" book Vol 6. It has "bulkheads" made from what looks like steel pipe and has a pulpwood load. Probably in captive service at a paper mill the way the load is heaped up on it.
This photo is LS&I 6319 in Aug of 1970:
Craig Wilson
Dan
Thanks! And they were originally from NYC&HR 130000-130499 lot 282-F built in 1912 by Pullman !
My only shot of an LS&I flat is this ebay grab. Could it be ex-NYC as well ? Looks like a "USRA" design
like the Red Caboose model ?
On 10/3/2022 9:40 AM, lstt100 wrote:
Thanks! And they were originally from NYC&HR 130000-130499 lot 282-F built in 1912 by Pullman !
My only shot of an LS&I flat is this ebay grab. Could it be ex-NYC as well ? Looks like a "USRA" design
like the Red Caboose model ?
On 10/3/2022 9:40 AM, lstt100 wrote:
LS&I 5000-5100 former NYC 498000-498499 series acquired by LS&I in 1936.
Daniel Holbrook
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
lrkdbn
I will still say that based on rivet patterns and end sill as well as trucks this is a NYCL 208-F. If it has now LS&I ownership it probably was sold secondhand by NYC. I admit it is possible it was a clone however, the plate end sill with rivets was a NYC modification of the original construction which was a bowed channel with the flanges facing inwards. I recall a picture of another such car on a West Coast lumber operation in Trains magazine
years ago, again I think probably secondhand from NYCL.Thank you for the insight about LS&I ownership!
Larry King
years ago, again I think probably secondhand from NYCL.Thank you for the insight about LS&I ownership!
Larry King
It's a Lake Superior & Ishpeming flat car -- LS&I. Series 5000 to 5100 were 40'2" deck length 41'0" overall length
flat cars that I think may be very similar to the TICHY model and the old Champ decals for those flat cars had quite an
assortment of reporting marks, which may have included LS&I ?
On 10/2/2022 4:01 PM, lrkdbn via groups.io wrote:
This car is a NYCL Lot 208-F built 1907 by ACF. The lettering does not look to be NYC though. I know some of the were sold to logger RR's. These cars are of special interest to me. Are there any other photos associated with this one?
Larry King
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Photo: Log Load (1942)
Photo from the National Archives:
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/2129432
On the link scroll to enlarge the photo.
Reporting marks not discernable.
Probable location is Michigan’s Hiawatha National Forest.
Notice the saplings used as cribbing.
The AAR had a standard for saplings used this way. Basically, the minimum stake size for flat cars or gondola cars with sides less than 30 inches high was sawed or green saplings five inches in diameter measured midway between top and bottom.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA