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PFE APPLIANCE IDENTIFICDATION

Bob Chaparro
 

I believe this close-up photo is the same item.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA

Tim O'Connor
 


I didn't have any specs, but I have added a little piece of styrene rod to represent this type of card holder.

On 10/11/2022 4:22 PM, Ed Hawkins wrote:


I’m unaware of HO-scale defect card holders for adding to a freight car model. Will appreciate replies who knows of sources of HO defect card holders. 

Ed Hawkins


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Ed Hawkins
 



On Oct 11, 2022, at 1:05 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:

Here is a shot from a PFE refer at the Paris museum near Los angled.  Above the truck is a devise in the area where a defect card holder is normally placed.   This is unlike any defect card holder that I have seen.  I don’t know if
this is a clip or a tube in which the card would be rolled up and inserted (highly unlikely).   Anyone have a clue as to just what this item is and how it works?

Bill,
The item in question is a defect card holder by the name of “Cheeper” made by Western Railway Equipment Co. Attached is a U.S. Patent for it. 

There were a number of different types/manufacturers of defect card holders used from about 1937 thru the 1950s. The vast majority of new freight cars built during this period had one per car. It was usually located on the right side of the car, but some railroads preferred to locate it on the left side. On occasion it was located “out of view” either attached to an underframe member or the back side of the door reinforcement for a box car. In these cases were often stencils on the side “Defect Cards” with an arrow pointing to the vicinity.

Other common types included Apex, who offered both a left & right version; Real (also made by Western Railway Equipment Co.); and Motor Wheel T-Z. ACL was partial to Maclean-Fogg. A few railroads supplied a defect card holder of their own design, as did some of the major car builders.

I’m unaware of HO-scale defect card holders for adding to a freight car model. Will appreciate replies who knows of sources of HO defect card holders. 

Hope this helps.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins




PDF
Patent 2,210,063 "Cheeper" Defect Card Holder, Western Railway Equipment Co. 8-6-40.pdf

Tim O'Connor
 


Small tube defect car holders were quite common - what could be simpler ? :-)


On 10/11/2022 2:05 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE wrote:

MORNING ALL:

Here is a shot from a PFE refer at the Paris museum near Los angled.  Above the truck is a devise in the area where a defect card holder is normally placed.   This is unlike any defect card holder that I have seen.  I don’t know if
this is a clip or a tube in which the card would be rolled up and inserted (highly unlikely).   Anyone have a clue as to just what this item is and how it works?

Thanks:

Bill Pardie


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

charles slater
 

Bill that is a defect card holder, but it looks like the cover for the open end is missing.
Charlie slater

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MORNING ALL:

Here is a shot from a PFE refer at the Paris museum near Los angled.  Above the truck is a devise in the area where a defect card holder is normally placed.   This is unlike any defect card holder that I have seen.  I don’t know if
this is a clip or a tube in which the card would be rolled up and inserted (highly unlikely).   Anyone have a clue as to just what this item is and how it works?

Thanks:

Bill Pardie




WILLIAM PARDIE
 

MORNING ALL:

Here is a shot from a PFE refer at the Paris museum near Los angled.  Above the truck is a devise in the area where a defect card holder is normally placed.   This is unlike any defect card holder that I have seen.  I don’t know if
this is a clip or a tube in which the card would be rolled up and inserted (highly unlikely).   Anyone have a clue as to just what this item is and how it works?

Thanks:

Bill Pardie




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