RTR Intermountain War Emergency Nickel Plate boxcar
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Here’s IM war emergency boxcar RTR. I went over the steel parts of the carbody with a wash of Vallejo grey black and then a Qtip dipped in 91% alcohol. Went over the factory lettering with a sharp blade to distress it. Roof was picked out with a mix of oils; sealed with Dullcote and then PanPastels went on the roof. After the pastels I went back a second time and picked out some other spots where the paint on the roof faked off. Sides sealed with my Dullcote mix to blend it all together.
   -- Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne. |
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Excellent treatment for RTR...
-- Ken Adams Covid Variants may come and go but I choose to still live mostly in splendid Shelter In Place solitude Location: About half way up Walnut Creek Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io |
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Nelson Moyer
Another winner. Board weathering, truck weathering, door shading, and roof with paint failure all stellar. The only improvements I can imagine would be kick scuffs on the ladders and maybe more obvious reweigh and repack stencils. Fine work all around.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 2:35 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] RTR Intermountain War Emergency Nickel Plate boxcar
Here’s IM war emergency boxcar RTR. I went over the steel parts of the carbody with a wash of Vallejo grey black and then a Qtip dipped in 91% alcohol. Went over the factory lettering with a sharp blade to distress it. Roof was picked
out with a mix of oils; sealed with Dullcote and then PanPastels went on the roof. After the pastels I went back a second time and picked out some other spots where the paint on the roof faked off. Sides sealed with my Dullcote mix to blend it all together.
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Nelson thanks. |
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Tony Thompson
Another good-looking car, Charlie! You really keep them coming. Tony
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Scott H. Haycock
Great model Charlie!
I have one of these (from an undec. kit) to build. I'll use this image as a reference when I paint and weather mine.
Scott Haycock
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Tony Thompson
Charlie Duckworth wrote:
Good feedback; I’d had the scuff marks with the ladders but the Dullcote seemed to have faded them into the car side color. I’ll add them again. Agree to on your repack and reweigh I’ll make those areas more obvious.With the stand-offs above the side framing, I wonder if the ladder scuffs would really be evident. And on my cars, I try for a whole range of prominence for reweigh and repack areas, depending on age, though the latter were a lot more frequent. If in doubt, the repack area is the more obvious. Tony Thompson |
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Mansell Peter Hambly
You are, Mr. Duckworth, an inspiration !!
Mansell Peter Hambly COQUITLAM, B.C. CANADA
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From: Tony Thompson
Sent: October 17, 2022 2:51 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RTR Intermountain War Emergency Nickel Plate boxcar
Another good-looking car, Charlie! You really keep them coming. Tony
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Chuck Cover
I know that I may be in the minority, but I feel that a lot of models have over-done weathering. Are ladder scuffs really that visible on most boxcars? Do all galvanized roofs have large patches of bare metal showing? Are all rivet lines darker/rusted and do they stand out from the rest of the boxcar side? Maybe I am exaggerating somewhat but I feel that some prototype cars show some of these weathering details, however, I am not sure that most prototype cars show all of these details, as a lot of the models that I am seeing lately. I don't mean to criticize any of the contributors as I am grateful to them sharing for their expertise. I am constantly learning new and useful weathering techniques. I do wonder, if we, as modelers, over-do it.
Chuck Cover Santa Fe, NM |
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Nelson
Here’s the redone car….  -- Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne. |
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Nelson Moyer
I hope my cars look half as good when I eventually get around to weathering them. I’m putting the final part on the RCW 6.5k X-3 tank car tonight, then it’s ready for priming. I’ve decided it will be my last resin kit. I have over 400 freight cars and somewhere around 100 of them are resin builds. It’s time to move on to scenery and structures.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 6:20 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RTR Intermountain War Emergency Nickel Plate boxcar
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Nelson Moyer
I don’t think ladder scuffs are overdoing it, and paint failure on roofs depends upon type of roof and era. Scuffs are visible in black and white photos of most single sheathed boxcars that have been in service for a while, to they’re very common. Reweigh and repack patches are universal. For me, overdoing weathering has to do with stark contrasts , broken board weathering (where the weathering isn’t extended the full length of the board), and imaginary weathering (not based upon photographic reality). The steam era was a pretty grungy time, and most freight cars weren’t washed, just periodically repainted. I think Charlie has found the formula for entirely believable steam era freight cars, except that perhaps his cars are too clean.
Nelson Moyer
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On Behalf Of Chuck Cover
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 5:23 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RTR Intermountain War Emergency Nickel Plate boxcar
I know that I may be in the minority, but I feel that a lot of models have over-done weathering. Are ladder scuffs really that visible on most boxcars? Do all galvanized roofs have large patches of bare metal showing? Are all rivet lines
darker/rusted and do they stand out from the rest of the boxcar side? Maybe I am exaggerating somewhat but I feel that some prototype cars show some of these weathering details, however, I am not sure that most prototype cars show all of these details, as
a lot of the models that I am seeing lately. I don't mean to criticize any of the contributors as I am grateful to them sharing for their expertise. I am constantly learning new and useful weathering techniques. I do wonder, if we, as modelers, over-do
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Chuck (Cover) and all,
I agree. My personal approach is to have variations - this car has this much weathering, that one another amount. This car has toe marks - that one has mud streaks from rain. This car has a roof in good condition - that one has a roof that is showing it is going to need re-surfacing - and that one shows that the re-surfacing is long overdue. Similarly - to me the correct color (shade) for "rusted metal" is just a few shades away from just about any car painted box car red (from whatever RR). However - one of my primary goals is that if you are 6 feet or more away then "all the cars look the same" (except for color differences/shades) ... and then when you get close enough (less than 2 or 3 feet) you start to see the details themselves. And only when you really study just one car do you begin to see/appreciate the variety of weathering methods/processes that have been used on that car. We all have seen many pictures of entire trains, long cuts of cars, or yards full of cars ... in most of them what I notice is how "similar" all the cars are to each other. Then, when I study it closely, I start to see the individuality. But most of the time I have to take time to even notice that there is a cut of reefers on that back track in that yard. - Jim in the PNW ... who agrees with Chuck in Santa Fe |
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Paul Doggett
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Yet another great looking car excellent work. Paul Doggett On 17 Oct 2022, at 20:35, Charlie Duckworth via groups.io <Worth51@...> wrote:
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Scuffs are not present on all box cars, for certain. But they are present on some box cars, for certain. All things in moderation, sayeth Aristotle. On 10/17/2022 8:16 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote:
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Nelson Moyer
For clarity, I referred to single sheathed boxcars, and while not all have scuffs, most do unless they are recently repainted.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 10:33 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RTR Intermountain War Emergency Nickel Plate boxcar
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Hmm. Not all single sheathed box cars have wood sheathing. Many have steel sides. On 10/18/2022 11:59 AM, Nelson Moyer wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Ray Breyer
And not all single sheathed boxcars have steel framing. Mather had around 800 all-wood single sheathed boxcars. Ray Breyer Elgin, IL
On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 02:48:42 PM CDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote: Hmm. Not all single sheathed box cars have wood sheathing. Many
have steel sides. On 10/18/2022 11:59 AM, Nelson Moyer wrote: For clarity, I referred to single
sheathed boxcars, and while not all have scuffs, most do
unless they are recently repainted. Nelson Moyer
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In my official NKPHTS hat I must encourage modeling NKP war emergency boxcars, here's the P&L diagram.
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Bob Chapman
First -- none of the following should be interpreted as criticism of Charlie's modeling. It is exemplary, and has often been an inspiration for both projects and new approaches on this end.
That said, I tend to agree with the comments of Chuck Cover and others that we tend to overdo weathering -- perhaps because it is more noticed and appreciated by other modelers. Check out the STMFC feedback on posts of finished models -- a high percentage of the comments relate only to weathering.
I personally get a kick (pun intended) out of the need to include toe scuffs. A while back I looked through my collection of transition-era prototype freight car photos. Yeah, there were a few cars with them, but in my sample they were in the clear minority. I think maybe it's a NMRA thing -- if you want points from the judges, you need to include toe scuffs. (Hmmm -- maybe they should be more pronounced on the B-end due to ladder-climbing for handbrake tie-down?)
Some of the best weathering is based on prototype photos. Some are heavily weathered, some lightly weathered, and some not. If you're modeling from a photo of a SS boxcar that hasn't been recently repainted with toe scuffs, by all means include them. But be aware that there can be wide variations, both in the prototype and how we properly model it.
Regards,
Bob Chapman
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