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UP Automobile Boxcar 151056 (1940)
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UP Automobile Boxcar 151056 (1940) Photo from the Ann Arbor District Library https://aadl.org/sites/default/files/photos/N186_0021_007.jpeg Click on the photo to enlarge it. Crowds Look Down At The Michigan Central Railroad Station Train Wreck, September 1940 Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Eric Hansmann
Wow! It looks like three similar UP 50-foot, single-sheathed, automobile box cars in this mishap.
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Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN On Oct 28, 2022, at 12:29 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
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I was asking about similar cars a few months ago - delighted to see this image!
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I’m also getting a kick at the clarity of the stencil breaks in the lettering, and all the small rectangular paint patch marks. It would be cool to have seen this in colour. Rob On Oct 28, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote: Wow! It looks like three similar UP 50-foot, single-sheathed, automobile box cars in this mishap.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN On Oct 28, 2022, at 12:29 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
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Philip Dove
The trouble with colour photography in 1940 was that the colour rendition was not very good, l have seen copies of Dufay colour prints which were considered the best for colour in that era and l think they are incredibly muted and muddy. Coloration just compromises a historic artefact. After watching colorized films of the US army l find myself wondering did soldiers wear Black helmets? I always thought they were olive drab. I fear the time might come when we start discussing what shade of harbour grey was used on UP boxcars. |
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Terry Link
Michigan Central leased 200 of
these UP cars from 1937 to 1942. I know some of the cars had
the reporting marks changed to MCRR. The car in the photo does
have a return to MCRR Detroit stencil and has a MCRR shop code
WD ( West Detroit ). Is there a model available for these
A-50-12 cars (HO scale) ? Westerfield has the A-50-6 - which
NYC leased 100 cars.
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NYC/MCRR leased a fair number of western road 50' automobile boxcars during the 1937-1942 time period. There are over a dozen photos on the website of this derailment: Some that may be of interest: https://aadl.org/N186_0021_001 https://aadl.org/N186_0021_002 https://aadl.org/N186_0021_008 https://aadl.org/N186_0021_011 https://aadl.org/N186_0021_018 On 10/28/2022 13:39, Eric Hansmann
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Wow! It looks like three similar UP 50-foot, single-sheathed, automobile box cars in this mishap. |
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Fascinating to see all of those "tell-tales" placed so
close to the bridge -- Not much time to react if someone
is standing on top of a moving freight car ! A lot more tracks there than I remember from the 1970's. And only 1 track is left today. But that beautiful station is still there. The cars are very similar to the all steel SP A-50-10 and A-50-11. On 10/28/2022 4:45 PM, Terry Link wrote: Michigan Central leased 200 of these UP cars from 1937 to 1942. I know some of the cars had the reporting marks changed to MCRR. The car in the photo does have a return to MCRR Detroit stencil and has a MCRR shop code WD ( West Detroit ). Is there a model available for these A-50-12 cars (HO scale) ? Westerfield has the A-50-6 - which NYC leased 100 cars. --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Eric Hansmann
Tim,
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Would these cars have been a Harriman design? Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN On Oct 28, 2022, at 4:07 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Definitely not. Harriman's control of the CP-SP ended long before these cars were built and even though both railroads continued to use "Common Standard" nomenclature I think there was no commonality by then. On 10/28/2022 5:44 PM, Eric Hansmann wrote: Tim, --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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George Courtney
Curious, in photo 0021_008 what ae all the patches on the side of the boxcar. They look like various sized typing paper stuck on. Since chipped paint is obvious elsewhere, I can't imagine anything to do with paint.
Thanks, George Courtney |
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David
https://aadl.org/sites/default/files/photos/N186_0021_011.jpgThis GTW steel-side rebuild has a short intermediate panel in the end to accomodate a height extension, not an uncommon practice. I haven't seen one of those with a single bifurcated rib, though. David Thompson |
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Eric Hansmann
That’s interesting. It’s like a bow tie.
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Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN On Oct 28, 2022, at 5:48 PM, David via groups.io <jaydeet2001@...> wrote: |
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Terry,
Thanks for sharing as the linked images as well as the others on the site I found to be interesting, especially in their photo clarity and details shown. But I would also warn folks that one of the images is gruesome as there was a brakeman killed in the accident. Not everybody may want to come across it. Danny Rodriguez |
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Doug Polinder
Note the young man in the N sweater (probably Northwestern) in the foreground. Maybe the Mildcats were in town that weekend to get their annual beating from the Wolverines (sign seen in the Northwestern student section when playing Michigan or Ohio State: "you may beat us on the field today, but you'll be working for us tomorrow"). Doug Polinder Seguin TX naturalized Michigander MST, Northwestern University, 1991 |
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Dave Nelson
Anyone having doubts about the forces in railroading only need to look at those rails -- bent like they were just pipe cleaners.
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Dave Nelson -----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of David via groups.io Sent: Friday, October 28, 2022 3:48 PM To: RealSTMFC@groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] UP Automobile Boxcar 151056 (1940) https://aadl.org/sites/default/files/photos/N186_0021_011.jpgThis GTW steel-side rebuild has a short intermediate panel in the end to accomodate a height extension, not an uncommon practice. I haven't seen one of those with a single bifurcated rib, though. David Thompson |
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Marty McGuirk
Also of note is the GTW rebuild on the other side of the bridge.
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Marty McGuirk On Oct 28, 2022, at 7:03 PM, Danny Rodriguez <d.rodriguez0428@...> wrote:
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