Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar
Scaletrains made the announcement of their kit classic PS-1 boxcar. The artwork dates are later 40's to early 50's.
https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/ho-scale-freight-cars/kit-classics-ho-scale-p-s-40-boxcar.html
Curt Fortenberry
On Nov 14, 2022, at 3:41 PM, Curt Fortenberry <curtfortenberry@...> wrote:
Scaletrains made the announcement of their kit classic PS-1 boxcar. The artwork dates are later 40's to early 50's.
https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/ho-scale-freight-cars/kit-classics-ho-scale-p-s-40-boxcar.html
Curt Fortenberry
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Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
Incredible, in my opinion -- It's not hard to find 100% accurate KADEE models for $20 or less and all of the
Kadee cars (except the ridiculous special run collector cars) are correctly lettered and numbered. I have quite
a few I plan to sell off because they don't fit my time period anymore.
On 11/14/2022 3:41 PM, Curt Fortenberry wrote:
Scaletrains made the announcement of their kit classic PS-1 boxcar. The artwork dates are later 40's to early 50's.
https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/ho-scale-freight-cars/kit-classics-ho-scale-p-s-40-boxcar.html
Curt Fortenberry
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Tim, you imply that the Scale Trains PS-1 aren’t 100% accurate, correct? I could use a few PS-1 boxcars lettered for Eastern roads, and I’ve been holding off planning to buy Kadee. If these are accurate, I may get a couple of cars.
Nelson Moyer
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 2:48 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar
Incredible, in my opinion -- It's not hard to find 100% accurate KADEE models for $20 or less and all of the
Kadee cars (except the ridiculous special run collector cars) are correctly lettered and numbered. I have quite
a few I plan to sell off because they don't fit my time period anymore.
On 11/14/2022 3:41 PM, Curt Fortenberry wrote:
Scaletrains made the announcement of their kit classic PS-1 boxcar. The artwork dates are later 40's to early 50's.
https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/ho-scale-freight-cars/kit-classics-ho-scale-p-s-40-boxcar.html
Curt Fortenberry
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
I was a bit surprised by the Scale Trains PS-1's as it seems like they are intended to be the Blue Box cars of the 2020's with everything cast on. I took a couple of pictures with my phone. I hope the come through embedded in the text, like this.
They also displayed test shot of PFE Reefer
and a Gondola, that I wondered if it were Pennsy. I apparently failed to get a side view.
Although I was talking to Shane Wilson, he would only allow that these were test shots for future products a ways out in the future. I thought the PFE reefer might be a plywood side car, but he said that it was steel car.
Just now, it occurs to me that these all might be some ex-MTH cars coming into the Scale Trains line. Didn't MTH have a PS-1, PFE Reefer and a gondola too?
Steve Hile
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Nov 14, 2022 3:01 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar
Tim, you imply that the Scale Trains PS-1 aren’t 100% accurate, correct? I could use a few PS-1 boxcars lettered for Eastern roads, and I’ve been holding off planning to buy Kadee. If these are accurate, I may get a couple of cars.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 2:48 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar
Incredible, in my opinion -- It's not hard to find 100% accurate KADEE models for $20 or less and all of the
Kadee cars (except the ridiculous special run collector cars) are correctly lettered and numbered. I have quite
a few I plan to sell off because they don't fit my time period anymore.
On 11/14/2022 3:41 PM, Curt Fortenberry wrote:
Scaletrains made the announcement of their kit classic PS-1 boxcar. The artwork dates are later 40's to early 50's.
https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/ho-scale-freight-cars/kit-classics-ho-scale-p-s-40-boxcar.html
Curt Fortenberry
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
On Nov 14, 2022, at 7:20 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
I was a bit surprised by the Scale Trains PS-1's as it seems like they are intended to be the Blue Box cars of the 2020's with everything cast on. I took a couple of pictures with my phone. I hope the come through embedded in the text, like this.
They also displayed test shot of PFE Reefer
and a Gondola, that I wondered if it were Pennsy. I apparently failed to get a side view.
Although I was talking to Shane Wilson, he would only allow that these were test shots for future products a ways out in the future. I thought the PFE reefer might be a plywood side car, but he said that it was steel car.
Just now, it occurs to me that these all might be some ex-MTH cars coming into the Scale Trains line. Didn't MTH have a PS-1, PFE Reefer and a gondola too?
Steve Hile
, November 14, 2022 2:48 PM
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
On Nov 14, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:I was a bit surprised by the Scale Trains PS-1's as it seems like they are intended to be the Blue Box cars of the 2020's with everything cast on. I took a couple of pictures with my phone. I hope the come through embedded in the text, like this.They also displayed test shot of PFE Reeferand a Gondola, that I wondered if it were Pennsy. I apparently failed to get a side view.Although I was talking to Shane Wilson, he would only allow that these were test shots for future products a ways out in the future. I thought the PFE reefer might be a plywood side car, but he said that it was steel car.
Just now, it occurs to me that these all might be some ex-MTH cars coming into the Scale Trains line. Didn't MTH have a PS-1, PFE Reefer and a gondola too?
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On Nov 14, 2022, at 7:33 PM, Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361@...> wrote:
Can confirm the reefer is also ex MTH. MTH had what they called a 70 ton mill gon. It was similiar to Bethlehem and Greenville cars, but I never looked at it too closely since Proto and tangent had those covered.They didn’t have a 40 ft gon. Be interesting to see the side.Brian J. CarlsonOn Nov 14, 2022, at 7:20 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:I was a bit surprised by the Scale Trains PS-1's as it seems like they are intended to be the Blue Box cars of the 2020's with everything cast on. I took a couple of pictures with my phone. I hope the come through embedded in the text, like this.
They also displayed test shot of PFE Reefer
and a Gondola, that I wondered if it were Pennsy. I apparently failed to get a side view.
Although I was talking to Shane Wilson, he would only allow that these were test shots for future products a ways out in the future. I thought the PFE reefer might be a plywood side car, but he said that it was steel car.
Just now, it occurs to me that these all might be some ex-MTH cars coming into the Scale Trains line. Didn't MTH have a PS-1, PFE Reefer and a gondola too?
Steve Hile
, November 14, 2022 2:48 PM
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Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
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Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
The photos are available on the groups.io web site. Take the link at the bottom of the message.
Note that the gondola was not a 40 footer, it was a 52 foot one.
Steve Hile
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Nov 14, 2022 6:35 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar
no photos :-(
On Nov 14, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:I was a bit surprised by the Scale Trains PS-1's as it seems like they are intended to be the Blue Box cars of the 2020's with everything cast on. I took a couple of pictures with my phone. I hope the come through embedded in the text, like this.They also displayed test shot of PFE Reeferand a Gondola, that I wondered if it were Pennsy. I apparently failed to get a side view.Although I was talking to Shane Wilson, he would only allow that these were test shots for future products a ways out in the future. I thought the PFE reefer might be a plywood side car, but he said that it was steel car.
Just now, it occurs to me that these all might be some ex-MTH cars coming into the Scale Trains line. Didn't MTH have a PS-1, PFE Reefer and a gondola too?
Steve Hile<image.png><image.png><image.png>
Bill they showed up in my email box. Look at the very bottom of the message you received; you may find links to the images. They are also in the online message. You can see them there.
Doug Harding
https://www.facebook.com/douglas.harding.3156/
Youtube: Douglas Harding Iowa Central Railroad
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 6:34 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar
no photos :-(
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA
On Nov 14, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
I was a bit surprised by the Scale Trains PS-1's as it seems like they are intended to be the Blue Box cars of the 2020's with everything cast on. I took a couple of pictures with my phone. I hope the come through embedded in the text, like this.
They also displayed test shot of PFE Reefer
and a Gondola, that I wondered if it were Pennsy. I apparently failed to get a side view.
Although I was talking to Shane Wilson, he would only allow that these were test shots for future products a ways out in the future. I thought the PFE reefer might be a plywood side car, but he said that it was steel car.
Just now, it occurs to me that these all might be some ex-MTH cars coming into the Scale Trains line. Didn't MTH have a PS-1, PFE Reefer and a gondola too?
Steve Hile
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From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Nov 14, 2022 3:01 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar
Tim, you imply that the Scale Trains PS-1 aren’t 100% accurate, correct? I could use a few PS-1 boxcars lettered for Eastern roads, and I’ve been holding off planning to buy Kadee. If these are accurate, I may get a couple of cars.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 2:48 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar
Incredible, in my opinion -- It's not hard to find 100% accurate KADEE models for $20 or less and all of the
Kadee cars (except the ridiculous special run collector cars) are correctly lettered and numbered. I have quite
a few I plan to sell off because they don't fit my time period anymore.
On 11/14/2022 3:41 PM, Curt Fortenberry wrote:
Scaletrains made the announcement of their kit classic PS-1 boxcar. The artwork dates are later 40's to early 50's.
https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/ho-scale-freight-cars/kit-classics-ho-scale-p-s-40-boxcar.html
Curt Fortenberry
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
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Although I was talking to Shane Wilson, he would only allow that these were test shots for future products a ways out in the future. I thought the PFE reefer might be a plywood side car, but he said that it was steel car.
The PFE reefer is most definitely the plywood side -24 car. Steve, your excellent posted photo very clearly shows the under frame of the wood cars. Also the panel count is for the -24 car.
Dick Harley covered these cars on his Smugmug site:
https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/PFEModels/PFE-Wood-Ice-Reefer-Models/R-30-24/
MTH described them wrong and it looks like Scale Trains will continue the tradition.
Dan Smith
I can instantly see that the MILW 35002 is a foobie without even knowing anything about the prototype -- The
car body is OBVIOUSLY a 1953+ PS-1 and the built date is 1951. Doh. :-)
On 11/14/2022 7:41 PM, Steve and Barb Hile wrote:
The photos are available on the groups.io web site. Take the link at the bottom of the message.
Note that the gondola was not a 40 footer, it was a 52 foot one.
Steve Hile
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
On Nov 16, 2022, at 5:20 PM, lrkdbn via groups.io <lrkdbn@...> wrote:
Let me see if I understand this correctly. Secondhand tooling that wasn't all that great the first time,foobie paint
schemes AND reserve now with delivery 9 months out? Now that's a business model...
Larry King
I surprised myself - I have only one C&O Kadee model - a 50 foot box car ! My other C&O models are all kits - or hopper cars.
I have a bunch of C&O hopper car models, including a bunch of brass cars (4 or 5 I think).
On 11/15/2022 12:50 AM, Dave Wetterstroem wrote:
Tim, when you're ready to sell, I'll give you $20 each for any HO scale C&O kadee cars.
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Oops, I'm sorry folks. Meant to go directly to Dave.
On 11/18/2022 5:32 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Dave
I surprised myself - I have only one C&O Kadee model - a 50 foot box car ! My other C&O models are all kits - or hopper cars.
I have a bunch of C&O hopper car models, including a bunch of brass cars (4 or 5 I think).
On 11/15/2022 12:50 AM, Dave Wetterstroem wrote:
Tim, when you're ready to sell, I'll give you $20 each for any HO scale C&O kadee cars.
Tim O'Connor
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts