Type 27 Tank Car Brake Gear
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Nelson Moyer
Bitte Sehr.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of golden1014 via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 11:55 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Type 27 Tank Car Brake Gear
Thanks Nelson, Steve and Allen (and Norm offline), I have everything I need now. I appreciate your help. The drawings took some study and the photos helped, and now I what to do. I took about an hour last night and made some good progress.
I'll post more when it's done. |
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Norm Buckhart
John - the class ICC 103 is what the car is designed to carry and is an ARA Class II and III, ICC (now DOT) designation, usually interior lining and various outlets, vents and pressure limitations. ICC 103 designated this class as a general purpose tank car and specifies its range of contents - the Type 27 refers to the design of the car - in this case AC&F’s 1927 design, usually the underframe, etc - a tank was a tank and pretty much lasted for ever. GATX had their own type designation. Remember in 1927-1935, the Type 27’s were built with Type KD or KC brake systems. These were required to be replaced by AB brake systems on or before 1953. So what you are modeling is a tank car with an AB brake replacement. It was normally done at the tank car owner’s shops or subbed out to another facility. There was no standard for this and so you will find some with the actuating piston and/or reservoir on one side or on the same side at the AB valve - Most had the AB valve mounted on top of the reservoir so it ended up above the running board - but not always. You can probably get away with anything and be almost correct - in-service photos are always the best solution and then no one can ‘outsmart you”
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regards, norm On Nov 20, 2022, at 9:54 AM, golden1014 via groups.io <golden1014@...> wrote: Thanks Nelson, Steve and Allen (and Norm offline), I have everything I need now. I appreciate your help. The drawings took some study and the photos helped, and now I what to do. I took about an hour last night and made some good progress. I'll post more when it's done. |
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golden1014
Thanks Nelson, Steve and Allen (and Norm offline), I have everything I need now. I appreciate your help. The drawings took some study and the photos helped, and now I what to do. I took about an hour last night and made some good progress. I'll post more when it's done.
For the record the Red Caboose car is ICC 103W which is different than the Type 27 and thus the brake gear arrangement is different. On my model the valve is on top of the reservoir, and the cylinder is on the same side of the frame. ON the Ype 103 the valve and cylinder are on the same side of the frame and the reservoir is on opposite sides of the frame. Danke! John Golden O'Fallon, IL |
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Allan Smith <smithal9@...>
See attached plans for Red Caboose O scale tank car
On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 12:31:40 PM PST, golden1014 via groups.io <golden1014@...> wrote:
Hi Gents, I'm building an O scale Intermountain Type 27 tank car and am in need of an AB brake gear diagram or some good pictures of AB brake gear installations. Does anybody have anything you can share? Thanks! John Golden O'Fallon, IL 62269 |
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Take a look at
http://resincarworks.com/extras/images/ab_brakesystem_acidtanks_drawing.jpg
from the RCW site is an AB brake drawing from ACF from the retired kits info.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of golden1014 via groups.io
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Nelson Moyer
I built two RCW Type 27 tanks cars lettered for SHPX, and side and end photos are posted at:
RCW 1.02 Type 27 Tank Car Update (groups.io)
Here are some underframe shots.
Nelson Moyer
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On Behalf Of golden1014 via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:32 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Type 27 Tank Car Brake Gear
Hi Gents,
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golden1014
Hi Gents,
I'm building an O scale Intermountain Type 27 tank car and am in need of an AB brake gear diagram or some good pictures of AB brake gear installations. Does anybody have anything you can share? Thanks! John Golden O'Fallon, IL 62269 |
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