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Interesting trio of Washington Terminal MoW cars
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While perusing eBay, I came across this trio of images showing MoW cars at Washington Terminal in Washington, DC which I thought to particularly interesting:
 Washington Term # 503 Ivy City DC 1/1/75 https://www.ebay.com/itm/364071684656  Washington Term # 502 Ivy City DC 1/1/75
 Washington Term # 506 Ivy City DC 1/1/75 https://www.ebay.com/itm/364071684938 Interested to hear folks' thoughts on the background of these cars. Found it fascinating they were still in use as late as 1975, albeit as house/tool cars. Almost looks like there's vapor coming from the air lines on the gondola. Thx! -- Ben Sullivan Brookeville, MD |
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lrkdbn
The two house cars look like ex PRR XL type work cars.
Larry King |
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The boxcars look like Harriman boxcars from the very early 1900's. See Westerfield for more info. fenton On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 11:38 AM Ben Sullivan <ben.sullivan75@...> wrote: While perusing eBay, I came across this trio of images showing MoW cars at Washington Terminal in Washington, DC which I thought to particularly interesting: --
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Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
With respect to Harriman boxcars, I don't think so.
I propose PRR class XL boxcars - see link below...
https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_09087
Claus Schlund
On 11-Dec-22 11:46, O Fenton Wells
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Dennis Storzek
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10:53 AM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) wrote:
I propose PRR class XL boxcars - see link below...Bingo! The combined jacking pad / poling pocket castings at the bolster locations cinch the deal. Dennis Storzek |
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Eric Hansmann
Indeed, those jacking pads at the bolsters are a Pennsy XL design feature. The B&O M-12 and M-13 class box cars followed similar designs but lacked the jacking pads.
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I think the flat car is a Pennsy FL class. These had a shallower fishbelly side sill than the later FM cars. Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN On Dec 11, 2022, at 11:08 AM, Dennis Storzek via groups.io <soolinehistory@...> wrote:
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I agree that these are PRR cars. That should not come as a particular surprise given that
the PRR was a partner in the Washington Terminal and that the WT's wreck derrick and idler car are an ex PRR W120 (120 ton brownhoist, aka the Tichy crane) and a F24 (preserved at the Baltimore museum)
Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2022 11:16 AM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io> Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Interesting trio of Washington Terminal MoW cars
I think the flat car is a Pennsy FL class. These had a shallower fishbelly side sill than the later FM cars.
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
On Dec 11, 2022, at 11:08 AM, Dennis Storzek via groups.io <soolinehistory@...> wrote:
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I'm bashing an Alton Harriman car right now and it also has the jacking pads and the fishbelly sides. At least the Westerfield versions of the IC, C&A, UP and several others have them. I assume that it was a design feature in the early 1900's boxcars.....or not Fenton On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 12:17 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
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