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Jason Hill
Craig Wilson, Nice picture there, that lumber load looks very much like the OwlMtModels 3004/3005 load that fits the Tichy WWII Emergency Gondola. Jason Hill |
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In the middle photo, the second ship back is the SS Eurana, built in 1915 and sunk in 1942, so this photo was taken in that time period.
SP 53710 is a Class G-50-3 gondola built in 1913. This was a drop-bottom car. Photos of G-50-3 gondolas appear on Pages 72-73 of Thompson’s Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 1. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Craig Wilson
Here is a partial view of a GTW composite gondola with a lumber load. No date, location or source noted on the photo but I believe the steam locomotive is Canadian National rather than GTW from its number and apparent "prairie" setting (note the cattle guard at the grade crossing):  And this type of lading is often noted as "timbers" rather than "lumber" on waybills. Craig Wilson |
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Interesting cast of characters. And what this the guy in the nice hat holding in his right hand? A gun?
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Andy Carlson
Back in the late 1960s, when my first job occurred, the minimum wage was $1.35 in California. A 6-pack of Coors was $1.25 so a legal aged minimum wage earner could get the 6 pack of beer with sales tax included for that one hours conscription. 5 Taco Bell tacos @ $0.19 each came to one dollar even when tax was added. In a way, beer is cheaper now adjusted for inflation than back then, such as 3 gallons of gas got around $1.35. A little bit inflaltion adjusted price today. Waiting for the site police to visit my door! -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 01:42:18 PM PST, Clarence Zink <clarence.zink@...> wrote:
A "buck and a quarter" per hour was pretty good pay for a kid in 1966. I worked at a Schwinn bicycle store on the SW side of Chicago at that same time, on Wednesday and Friday afternoons, and all day Saturday during school, for the same $1.25/hr. assembling new Schwinn's and fixing everything else, and found out that several of my HS buddies wanted my job. Most of the summer (Monday - Saturday) and Christmas were the heaviest, when I assembled between 50 and 120 new bikes per day. Ahhh, those were the days, no? CRZ _._,_._,_ |
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Clarence Zink
A "buck and a quarter" per hour was pretty good pay for a kid in 1966. I worked at a Schwinn bicycle store on the SW side of Chicago at that same time, on Wednesday and Friday afternoons, and all day Saturday during school, for the same $1.25/hr. assembling new Schwinn's and fixing everything else, and found out that several of my HS buddies wanted my job. Most of the summer (Monday - Saturday) and Christmas were the heaviest, when I assembled between 50 and 120 new bikes per day.
Ahhh, those were the days, no? CRZ |
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Mark
In the not too early days of 1966, I worked after school and that
summer for the Clinton Pallet Co. in Clinton, Ia. One day coming
to work, sits a 40' box car in the gravel parking lot in front of
the building. I didn't even know that a seldom used Milw. siding
(team track) was there, as it was buried in the dirt. That day, it
was my and another $1.25 an hour high school kids job to unload
that car's contents on to a flatbed truck. When we opened the 6'
door, we were faced with a giant game of "pick-up-sticks" made of
pine 2'X4's ranging in lengths from 8 to 20 feet. The poor grade
of lumber was twisted, warped, splintered, too dry and useless for
anything other than pallets. The sticks had been randomly loaded
(thrown) through the end lumber door all the way to the roof. It
took three days for us to unload that puzzle. 20' boards are hard
to untangle from other lengths and maneuver through a 6' door.
M. Feddersen Denver, Ia.
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Much Better Lester, I am now blogging Thanks On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:08 PM Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote: Due to a typing error, a space that did not belong, the blog link in previous post did not work. Please forgive. --
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Lester Breuer
Due to a typing error, a space that did not belong, the blog link in previous post did not work. Please forgive.
‘Correct link: http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/
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Guy Wilber
Douglas Harding wrote: “Where cranes were available, cranes were used, with slings under the lumber.” This is, more than likely, a photo of a disarranged load that is being repaired on a C&O RIP track. All the packages have moved which resulted in some of the steel strapping being broken either from a hard brake application or switching move. The load will be brought back into compliance and moved down the line. Too bad the photo doesn’t show the other end in order to see the condition of the other makeshift bulkhead. Guy Wilber Reno, Nevada
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Tony Thompson
Eric Hansmann wrote:Not to mention the nice overcoat. Tony Thompson tony@... |
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In early days lumber was typically loaded/unloaded by hand, a stick at a time. Where cranes were available, cranes were used, with slings under the lumber.
Doug Harding https://www.facebook.com/douglas.harding.3156/ Youtube: Douglas Harding Iowa Central Railroad
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Eric Hansmann
Attached is a view of a Pennsy Lines G22 gondola, circa 1921. This might be a recent arrival with the unloading crew at hand, or a recently loaded car documented with the loading crew.
I suspect the guy on top with the nice hat didn't help with the manual labor.
Eric Hansmann
now in Media, PA
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Lester Breuer
Jim Thank You for your kind word regarding my blog. I have attached a couple of photos of the lumber load Jim is commenting on. And, yes by hand.
For others if interested in seeing the build of the gondola the blog link is: http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/ Lester Breuer Plymouth, MN |
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Jerry Michels
Since coal, perishables and other items were unloaded by hand, this doesn't seem hard to believe, Jerry Michels |
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Yep. Entire car was often by hand.
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Brian J. Carlson On Dec 25, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Jim Betz <jimbetz@...> wrote:
-- Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga NY |
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Merry Christmas - ALL,
I was reading Lester Breuer's excellent blog and came across a model of a gon with a lumber load. The load was "3 groups tall" with each group being 'about the height of the side of the gon' ... in other words the bottom group is essentially completely down into the gon. It does not appear that the stacks in Lester's great build are banded - but they are separated into 3 sections (tall) with dunning and you could get the forks of a fork lift between the layers. The upper two groups in each stack could easily be loaded/unloaded using a fork lift. ===> How did they load/unload the stacks that were -inside- the gon? I'm going to guess it was "by hand, one stick at a time" ... correct? - Jim in the PNW |
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