Skeletonized ATSF war emergency gondola


Tom Madden
 

Started scanning my mostly-ignored 35mm color negatives and have come upon some forgotten treasures. March 1989, Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris CA, Santa Fe war emergency gondola 176695 had been stripped of all the wood components in preparation for replacement. Good views not usually available.

Tom Madden


Eric Hansmann
 

That's a batch of very cool photos, Tom! Thanks for sharing.
 
 
Eric Hansmann
Media, PA
 
 
 

On 12/31/2022 12:23 PM EST Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss@...> wrote:
 
 
Started scanning my mostly-ignored 35mm color negatives and have come upon some forgotten treasures. March 1989, Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris CA, Santa Fe war emergency gondola 176695 had been stripped of all the wood components in preparation for replacement. Good views not usually available.

Tom Madden
 

 


Andy Carlson
 

Last time I was at Perris this car still remained skeletonized. Apparently no need for a rush job here.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


 
 

On 12/31/2022 12:23 PM EST Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss@...> wrote:
 
 
Started scanning my mostly-ignored 35mm color negatives and have come upon some forgotten treasures. March 1989, Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris CA, Santa Fe war emergency gondola 176695 had been stripped of all the wood components in preparation for replacement. Good views not usually available.

Tom Madden
 

 



Robert G P
 

Thanks for that, very interesting and I had caught myself wondering about these the other day so couldn't be more timely! 

-Rob P

On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 1:35 PM Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
Last time I was at Perris this car still remained skeletonized. Apparently no need for a rush job here.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


 
 
On 12/31/2022 12:23 PM EST Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
 
Started scanning my mostly-ignored 35mm color negatives and have come upon some forgotten treasures. March 1989, Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris CA, Santa Fe war emergency gondola 176695 had been stripped of all the wood components in preparation for replacement. Good views not usually available.

Tom Madden
 

 



mark_landgraf
 

Interestingly the Milw Road skeletonized a small group of these cars in assigned service to a mfr of pipe. The cars without floor and side boards didn't collect dunnage that needed to be cleaned out prior to the loading of the pipe. 

Mark Landgraf
Albany NY


On Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 12:27 PM, Robert G P
<bobgp5109@...> wrote:
Thanks for that, very interesting and I had caught myself wondering about these the other day so couldn't be more timely! 

-Rob P

On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 1:35 PM Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
Last time I was at Perris this car still remained skeletonized. Apparently no need for a rush job here.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


 
 
On 12/31/2022 12:23 PM EST Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
 
Started scanning my mostly-ignored 35mm color negatives and have come upon some forgotten treasures. March 1989, Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris CA, Santa Fe war emergency gondola 176695 had been stripped of all the wood components in preparation for replacement. Good views not usually available.

Tom Madden
 

 



 

Rock Island skeletonized many for TOFC use. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jan 1, 2023, at 1:30 PM, mark_landgraf via groups.io <mark_landgraf@...> wrote:

Interestingly the Milw Road skeletonized a small group of these cars in assigned service to a mfr of pipe. The cars without floor and side boards didn't collect dunnage that needed to be cleaned out prior to the loading of the pipe. 

Mark Landgraf
Albany NY


On Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 12:27 PM, Robert G P
<bobgp5109@...> wrote:
Thanks for that, very interesting and I had caught myself wondering about these the other day so couldn't be more timely! 

-Rob P

On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 1:35 PM Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
Last time I was at Perris this car still remained skeletonized. Apparently no need for a rush job here.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


 
 
On 12/31/2022 12:23 PM EST Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
 
Started scanning my mostly-ignored 35mm color negatives and have come upon some forgotten treasures. March 1989, Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris CA, Santa Fe war emergency gondola 176695 had been stripped of all the wood components in preparation for replacement. Good views not usually available.

Tom Madden
 

 



Michael Gross
 

Thanks for sending these Tom.  Very helpful.

Cheers!
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Clarence Zink
 

Mark -

Would there be any photos somewhere of these skeletonized gons as pipe cars?  I need pipe cars for a pipe plant, and skeletonized cars would be way cool.

Thanks,

Clarence Zink


Craig Wilson
 

This MILW car is the only photo I have - no date or location noted but it appears to have a 1969 reweigh date.  It is also stencilled "Pipe Loading Only".
GBS40.MILW1474.062977.jpg
I couldn't find any photos of the cars carrying pipe loads.

Interesting sidenote:  I found entries in the Ann Arbor Railroad car ferry manifests (circa 1971) for several of these cars being shipped across Lake Michigan loaded with "rip rap stone."  Rip rap was the large rough stones used for building breakwalls along the shore.

Craig Wilson


Kenneth Montero
 

IIRC, someone made a kit of this car, with the wood sides as a separate part. Intermountain? Walthers?

Ken Montero

On 01/02/2023 9:24 PM Craig Wilson <agecompanyphotog@...> wrote:


This MILW car is the only photo I have - no date or location noted but it appears to have a 1969 reweigh date.  It is also stencilled "Pipe Loading Only".
GBS40.MILW1474.062977.jpg
I couldn't find any photos of the cars carrying pipe loads.

Interesting sidenote:  I found entries in the Ann Arbor Railroad car ferry manifests (circa 1971) for several of these cars being shipped across Lake Michigan loaded with "rip rap stone."  Rip rap was the large rough stones used for building breakwalls along the shore.

Craig Wilson


Benjamin Hom
 

Ken Montero wrote:
"IIRC, someone made a kit of this car, with the wood sides as a separate part. Intermountain? Walthers?"

Intermountain; however, it's a USRA composite gondola and NOT the MILW car pictured below.  The USRA composite gon can be readily identified by a "blank" middle panel lacking a diagonal.


Ben Hom

GBS40.MILW1474.062977.jpg


Clarence Zink
 

Thank you guys!!

CRZ