Broadway Limited 6, 000 Gallon Tank Cars/ Walthers newly-announced tank cars - same prototype?
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Andy Laurent
Back to the original questions, are any dealers willing to split up 2-packs for sale as individual models? I am looking for a single car from the 7661 and 7665 sets. Andy L. |
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Dennis Storzek
On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 11:28 PM, Douglas Harding wrote:
It this a rework of the Train Miniatures tank car?I believe the frame is. I recall being shown this frame molding at Walthers sometime in the eighties... It's distinctive, maybe unique in the way the outward angled sill steps allow the steps to be molded integral with simple 'open and close' tooling, no side actions required. Dennis Storzek |
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I had a set made by Rail Graphics some time ago, as I didn’t like the Champ’s all that well.
I know that Ryan has updated Ted’s UTLX set, as we discussed that quite a bit on a Zoom call and they are quite nice and comprehensive.
My set is/was $5.00 plus a SSAE and will do as many as 5 cars. Ryan’s will do 10.
D109 UTLX Tank Cars – National Scale Car
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Who's decals did you use on theis car Thanks Fenton
On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 11:17 AM Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
-- Fenton Wells Pinehurst NC 28374 |
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Fenton, Tim,
Thanks for the kind comments. I noticed that I captured a snipped photographic relic right on the running board in the photo that I posted. It was NOT part of the model! :>)
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 10:26 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Broadway Limited 6, 000 Gallon Tank Cars/ Walthers newly-announced tank cars - same prototype?
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Who's decals did you use on theis car Thanks Fenton On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 11:17 AM Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
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Steve that's the best disguise I've ever seen for the Walthers tank car! Nice job. :-) On 1/13/2023 11:17 AM, Steve and Barb Hile wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Doug
Wow did T-M ever actually produce a tank car, or a caboose ?? I have seen quite a few T-M models but just hoppers, box cars, reefers, and stock cars. But almost certainly, no tank car - That would be a revelation. :-) On 1/13/2023 12:28 AM, Douglas Harding wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Nice save Steve. Good job on an old car. I re-did a few Varneys but your looks better Fenton On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 11:17 AM Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
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Could well be. A Google search and one of the MR 75 year file turned up zero photos. Walthers has had the original tank car it its line for a long time. A few years ago, I turned one of them into an erstatz UTLX X-3.
Here is that car from 2015. I did most of the work on the underframe of this model, but I can’t find any photos documenting what I did. I know I moved the shallow V braces from the ends of the car to under the middle to support the running boards and created new side and end sills from styrene.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 11:29 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Broadway Limited 6, 000 Gallon Tank Cars/ Walthers newly-announced tank cars - same prototype?
It this a rework of the Train Miniatures tank car? This 1969 catalog promotes a 36’ tankcar: standard car, insulated car, chemical car. Walthers acquired the Train Miniatures line in the 1980s and I believe has been releasing updated versions of the cars. https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/3184730526_7ddac024cb_o.jpg
Doug Harding https://www.facebook.com/douglas.harding.3156/ Youtube: Douglas Harding Iowa Central Railroad
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Bruce Hendrick
About 1972 at a Train Show in Orange County, California I saw some pre-release models of the Train Miniature standard single dome tank car (36 foot?) and waited anxiously for their release. But I am sure none of the TM tank cars were ever released. Train Miniature went out of business about 1978 and I believe Walthers acquired all the molds, including the tank cars.
Bruce Hendrick
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It this a rework of the Train Miniatures tank car? This 1969 catalog promotes a 36’ tankcar: standard car, insulated car, chemical car. Walthers acquired the Train Miniatures line in the 1980s and I believe has been releasing updated versions of the cars. https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/3184730526_7ddac024cb_o.jpg
Doug Harding https://www.facebook.com/douglas.harding.3156/ Youtube: Douglas Harding Iowa Central Railroad
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spsalso
Now, now.
I believe the Mainline 60' P-S flat is pretty adequate. They also have a pretty adequate 5-platform well car in Mainline. And the only G85 you can buy. True, all of this are post 1960 (the flat?). But, back to the olden days, their NW2/SW7 is really quite a nice locomotive IF you want the as-delivered version (quite likely, here). They come with no added road specific details, but those were almost always added post-delivery. https://www.walthers.com/emd-nw2-phase-v-esu-sound-dcc-great-northern-152 $210, list. THAT'S a good deal. Ed Edward Sutorik |
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It’s Walthers and it’s mainline. It’s as expected, a model of nothing.
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Brian J. Carlson On Jan 12, 2023, at 7:06 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
-- Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga NY |
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Until this minute I had not looked at the price of the Walthers thingie (I won't call it a model of a railroad tank car) -- $35 !! Gag me with a spoon ! This is the kind of junk you pass by on a $3 table at a flea market. Woof ! :-D On 1/12/2023 7:00 PM, nyc3001 . wrote: I don't remember a tank like this from Freight Car Cyclopedia 2, the AC&F tank cars book, or the AC&F book. https://www.walthers.com/36-insulated-chemical-tankcar-ready-to-run-vulcan-chemical-gatx-33789 -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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nyc3001 .
I don't remember a tank like this from Freight Car Cyclopedia 2, the AC&F tank cars book, or the AC&F book.
Hopefully the tank represents some sort of prototype. But since it looks like the tank bands are molded onto the tank (like the Bluebox "chemical" tank), my expectations are low. -Phil |
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Looks too big to be a 6,000 gallon car. The Broadway car looks better. Oh, well. On 1/12/2023 4:23 PM, spsalso via groups.io wrote: There are photos of the new Walthers car here (thanks to a member of ARF): --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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spsalso
There are photos of the new Walthers car here (thanks to a member of ARF):
https://www.walthers.com/36-insulated-chemical-tankcar-ready-to-run-vulcan-chemical-gatx-33789 The car does look suspiciously like the Kadee car, but it's a dollar cheaper. Maybe the proportions differ. Ed Edward Sutorik |
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Case in point the X29b. Vaporware still.
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Brian J. Carlson On Jan 12, 2023, at 1:06 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
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Chris,
As Brian notes, no photos. Frankly, I doubt that a physical plastic shot from the new mold
even exits at this time. Walthers has been bumping up their sales releases until they are occurring before the molds are even cut.
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Chris Barkan <cplbarkan@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 9:44 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Broadway Limited 6, 000 Gallon Tank Cars/ Walthers newly-announced tank cars - same prototype?
Thanks! -- Chris Barkan Champaign, IL |
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For my two cents, it certainly appears that Walthers has created what is now a third tank body for its generic underframe. They also refer to their 3 compartment car as 36'.
The "original" was the single compartment 
Then came the 3 compartment 
And now, we will have the "chemical" tank version.
I noticed that only the undecorated version artwork shows the brake cylinder side of the car.
I do wish that they had expended some effort on the underframe. The new tank may well be useful.
FWIW, Steve Hile
-----Original Message-----
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Jan 12, 2023 9:45 AM To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Broadway Limited 6, 000 Gallon Tank Cars/ Walthers newly-announced tank cars - same prototype? Attached are the pages out of the Walthers New Product announcement just to ensure we are all on the same page. Bruce, can you please post a link or two to photos of the new Walthers cars? I Googled and only found artwork similar to what is shown in the attached. Thanks! -- Chris Barkan Champaign, IL
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