Atlas Slab-Side Covered Hoppers
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Jeffrey White
I'm thinking of pre-ordering a couple of these. Unfortunately Atlas hasn't told us what paint scheme is appropriate for the 1950s. I think these two might be correct. Does anyone know for sure? Jeff White Alma IL |
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Ian Cranstone
The upper (TH&B car) definitely not. The base lettering is likely correct (I'd have to defer to TH&B experts though), but the presence of lube plate, U-1 wheel stencil and the 1967 Confederation logo on the side would push this car into the early 1980s (the lube plate and U-1 stencil are the outliers here). The lower (CNR car) is correct – this would be one of their very early cars built from 1951 to 1953 (this particular model is from the 1951 order). CN switched to grey cars with red lettering after these early orders, but some of these cars remained in this paint scheme through retirement. Ian Cranstone On 2023-01-12 14:30, Jeffrey White wrote:
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Jeffrey White
Thanks Ian, I didn't even notice the lube plates on the black car. Jeff White Alma IL On 1/12/2023 1:41 PM, Ian Cranstone
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Bruce Hendrick
Does anyone know if this CN hopper would have seen service in the US? And if so, where?
Bruce Hendrick
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What the... ? Are these the same tooling as the "True Line Trains" or did Atlas do these from scratch? On 1/12/2023 2:41 PM, Ian Cranstone wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Not so much in the STMFC era. Definitely, afterwards. On 1/12/2023 2:59 PM, Bruce Hendrick wrote: Does anyone know if this CN hopper would have seen service in the US? And if so, where? --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Gary Roe
Tim, Atlas bought the True Line Trains tooling. gary roe quincy, illinois
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 02:58:25 PM CST, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
What the... ? Are these the same tooling as the "True Line Trains" or did Atlas do these from scratch? On 1/12/2023 2:41 PM, Ian Cranstone wrote: The upper (TH&B car) definitely not. The base lettering is likely correct (I'd have to defer to TH&B experts though), but the presence of lube plate, U-1 wheel stencil and the 1967 Confederation logo on the side would push this car into the early 1980s (the lube plate and U-1 stencil are the outliers here). The lower (CNR car) is correct – this would be one of their very early cars built from 1951 to 1953 (this particular model is from the 1951 order). CN switched to grey cars with red lettering after these early orders, but some of these cars remained in this paint scheme through retirement. Ian Cranstone
On 2023-01-12 14:30, Jeffrey White wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Thanks, Gary ! Importers musical chairs it's hard to keep track of it all ! :-) On 1/12/2023 4:01 PM, Gary Roe wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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I took photos of them on the MILW between Owatonna and Faribault, MN in the 70’s. Well outside this list’s era, however.
Thanks!
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Hendrick <brucehendrick@...>
Does anyone know if this CN hopper would have seen service in the US? And if so, where?
Bruce Hendrick Brea, California |
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Robert G P
What would those have carried stateside? Potash? -Rob On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 4:09 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Robert G P
I have seen at least one in a picture in the U.S. I cannot recall the road though. -Rob On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 4:33 PM BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:
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Among other things. Pictures of them in Iowa and Pennsylvania. On 1/12/2023 5:42 PM, Robert G P wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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cptracks
general article about these models including some loads here; https://railroadmodeling.net/news/slab-side-covered-hopper On 2023-01-12 3:54 p.m., Tim O'Connor
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Marc Simpson
If anyone has access, there is a two part article in the August and September 1986 Railroad Model Craftsman by Ken Goslett and Stafford Swain (part 2) about these cars. It includes a list of commodities these cars carried. Everything from peanut shells to arsenic and bone black. Marc Simpson |
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Craig Wilson
And my favorite . . . baghouse fume. I looked it up . . . powdered zinc. Mined in western Canada and often shipped to battery plants in CP cars. Slab side hoppers (both CP and CN) were commonly shipped across Lake Michigan on AA and C&O car ferries carrying potash. That's where my interest in them was first developed. And the Canadian "tank hoppers" too. There were models of them in the past made by Overland (brass) and Sylvan (resin - described on one blog as "the most challenging kit I've ever built"). It would be terrific to see this one produced commercially one day . . . hello, Rapido?  Craig Wilson |
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I bought some of those Sylvan kits. Abominable.
Thanks!
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Craig Wilson <agecompanyphotog@...>
And my favorite . . . baghouse fume. I looked it up . . . powdered zinc. Mined in western Canada and often shipped to battery plants in CP cars.
Slab side hoppers (both CP and CN) were commonly shipped across Lake Michigan on AA and C&O car ferries carrying potash. That's where my interest in them was first developed. And the Canadian "tank hoppers" too. There were models of them in the past made by Overland (brass) and Sylvan (resin - described on one blog as "the most challenging kit I've ever built"). It would be terrific to see this one produced commercially one day . . . hello, Rapido? Craig Wilson |
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jczzo126 CocuzzaT
These cars were common on the Reading Railroad in Reading Pa, but this was in the 70s' and 80's, when I worked on the Reading and Conrail. Beyond the scope of this group. Actually, the TH&B cars were in the black scheme and the CP cars were in red or gray, never photographed or saw one in the brown scheme. They carried potash for fertilizer plants or feed mills in the Reading's service area. |
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Marc Simpson
A few years ago I had Black Cat Decals do etched end cages for the CN and CP tank hopper cars that vastly improved the building process. Black Cat offers them on their website as well as etchings for the TLT/Atlas, Sylvan and F&C slabside hoppers. I did a blog post on building the Sylvan Tank Hoppers as well as using their etchings on a TLT slabside hopper. Vastly better looking cars using these products. Marc Simpson |
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Doug Polinder
A CP slabside in black appears on the GN in Everett WA in 1960 in a photo in David Hickcox' "GN Lines West in Color." I have Goslett's articles and can't begin to guess which commodity from that list was in that car. CN was GN's preferred interchange partner at Vancouver and you don't see many CP cars on GN.
I built one of the Sylvan cars around 15 years ago to model the CP car in the 380000 (guessing here) series. I remember I screwed something up and had to fabricate a replacement part out of .010 styrene. Doug Polinder |
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Since we are talking about Atlas slab sides, does anyone have any more information on the CGLX cars Atlas has also announced with this new run? Of the sources I have found, one says they are 6 hatch cars, another says 8 hatch. Which is correct?
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