Eastern seaboard Models XIH
Brian,
There are some good photos in this link. Details such as grab irons, steps and ladders, etc, etc are about C&BT shops standard. Assembly of the roof doesn't look well done as it sticks up towards the ends.
ESM HO XIH Boxcar production run photos | The Atlas Rescue Forum (proboards.com)
Robert Bogie
Did anyone pick up the new eastern seaboard models State of Maine boxcars either the New Haven or Bangor & Aroostook? I was wondering how well they did them. Brian J. Carlson
On Jan 13, 2023, at 2:26 AM, robertb@... wrote:
Brian,
There are some good photos in this link. Details such as grab irons, steps and ladders, etc, etc are about C&BT shops standard. Assembly of the roof doesn't look well done as it sticks up towards the ends.
ESM HO XIH Boxcar production run photos | The Atlas Rescue Forum (proboards.com)
Robert Bogie
On 13/01/2023 12:09 pm, Brian Carlson via groups.io wrote:
Did anyone pick up the new eastern seaboard models State of Maine boxcars either the New Haven or Bangor & Aroostook? I was wondering how well they did them. Brian J. Carlson
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Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
No. Very poorly done roof, unfortunately. Maybe they just "scaled up" the N scale model. But it's a cool
prototype, and the model probably will sell well anyway.
Attached is a reasonably good view of the prototype early SRE diagonal panel roof. On later versions of
the SRE roof the narrow stamping is as long as the wide one, going out to the edge where it bends downward.
On 1/13/2023 9:10 AM, Brian Carlson via groups.io wrote:
Thanks. What’s up with that diagonal panel roof? Were the panels that pronounced?
Brian J. Carlson
On Jan 13, 2023, at 2:26 AM, robertb@... wrote:
Brian,
There are some good photos in this link. Details such as grab irons, steps and ladders, etc, etc are about C&BT shops standard. Assembly of the roof doesn't look well done as it sticks up towards the ends.
ESM HO XIH Boxcar production run photos | The Atlas Rescue Forum (proboards.com)
Robert Bogie
On 13/01/2023 12:09 pm, Brian Carlson via groups.io wrote:
Did anyone pick up the new eastern seaboard models State of Maine boxcars either the New Haven or Bangor & Aroostook? I was wondering how well they did them. Brian J. Carlson
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
It is a cool prototype but based on the roof alone I think I’ll pass unless I can see on to determine how easy it is to remove and replace the roof.
On Jan 13, 2023, at 10:57 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
No. Very poorly done roof, unfortunately. Maybe they just "scaled up" the N scale model. But it's a cool
prototype, and the model probably will sell well anyway.
Attached is a reasonably good view of the prototype early SRE diagonal panel roof. On later versions of
the SRE roof the narrow stamping is as long as the wide one, going out to the edge where it bends downward.
On 1/13/2023 9:10 AM, Brian Carlson via groups.io wrote:
Thanks. What’s up with that diagonal panel roof? Were the panels that pronounced?
Brian J. Carlson
On Jan 13, 2023, at 2:26 AM, robertb@... wrote:
Brian,
There are some good photos in this link. Details such as grab irons, steps and ladders, etc, etc are about C&BT shops standard. Assembly of the roof doesn't look well done as it sticks up towards the ends.
ESM HO XIH Boxcar production run photos | The Atlas Rescue Forum (proboards.com)
Robert Bogie
On 13/01/2023 12:09 pm, Brian Carlson via groups.io wrote:
Did anyone pick up the new eastern seaboard models State of Maine boxcars either the New Haven or Bangor & Aroostook? I was wondering how well they did them. Brian J. Carlson
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts<cb&q_40624 40ft_SD_box XM-32 rebuild green-paint overhead-view CiceroIL 1980.jpg>
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
Hahaha !! Worse than the worst? That's a hard call to make, because there are so many poorly done
roofs... and ends... and doors... and trucks... and sides... and underframes... :-D
If the car's dimensions are accurate it should not be too hard to replace the roof with a better one. :-)
On 1/13/2023 11:03 AM, Brian Carlson via groups.io wrote:
It is a cool prototype but based on the roof alone I think I’ll pass unless I can see on to determine how easy it is to remove and replace the roof.
We look at roofs 90% of the time on our layouts. It’s an important detail.
This roof may be worse than the Intermountain rectangular panel roof.
Brian J. Carlson
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
OMG Guy again I never looked at the price! WOW. I have many very good brass models I bought for
much less than $85 ! Crazy. Yeah, no thanks, I'll just build the resin kit if I want one. :-)
On 1/13/2023 5:42 PM, Guy Wilber via groups.io wrote:
Tim O'Connor wrote;
“Hahaha !! Worse than the worst? That's a hard call to make, because there are so many poorly done roofs... and ends... and doors... and trucks... and sides... and underframes... :-D
If the car's dimensions are accurate it should not be too hard to replace the roof with a better one. :-)”.
I have never been one to whine about today’s prices, but at $85.00 a pop no one should have to change much on a freight car model. The roof is poorly done, the ladders, sill steps and grabs are just as bad. The underframe and brake gear are pretty weak as well. The brake release rod must be close to 4 inches in diameter. A car I’ve admired since it was featured on Athearn’s boxes and was looking forward to a decent offering.
Guy WilberReno, Nevada
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Honestly looks like a model tooled in the 1960’s.
With RTR models such as Exactrail and Tangent being the benchmark I can’t imagine how these ever reached the production stage with the bizarre roof and oversized details. I looked at their web site and they show only 12 or 13 of each number being in stock which is odd considering they are just released. At $84.50 plus $9 shipping you have to wonder who’s buying these?
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Charlie Duckworth
Omaha, Ne.
On the other hand, I have one of the N scale cars -- a gift for my help with photos of late-era cars.
It's pretty good, since I can barely see anything that small. :-D
I ask myself the same question about Rapido (i.e. massive number of new models). WHO is buying all that stuff? :-)
On 1/14/2023 7:24 AM, Charlie Duckworth via groups.io wrote:
Honestly looks like a model tooled in the 1960’s.
With RTR models such as Exactrail and Tangent being the benchmark I can’t imagine how these ever reached the production stage with the bizarre roof and oversized details. I looked at their web site and they show only 12 or 13 of each number being in stock which is odd considering they are just released. At $84.50 plus $9 shipping you have to wonder who’s buying these?
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Charlie Duckworth
Omaha, Ne.
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
I admit that's a surprise !! I wasn't aware that Intermountain ever did a 1937 AAR box car with plug doors !!
On 1/14/2023 10:22 AM, Jay Styron wrote:
When I saw the ad, it reminded me that I wanted one of these cars in my boxcar roster, mainly because I grew up in Maine, so it was a sentimental want. I looked on eBay, and found that every model manufacturer in history has done them. For me this is more a paint scheme model than anything else, so I bought an Intermountain model for half the price of this new one. The paint and lettering is well done, and it’s a decent model. Problem solved.Attachments:
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:52 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
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Isn't the InterMountain car missing the vents found on the sides of the prototype?
And the heater.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA<dummyfile.0.part>
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Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
Also has the wrong ends.
Robert Bogie
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Isn't the InterMountain car missing the vents found on the sides of the prototype?
And the heater.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
On Jan 14, 2023, at 5:21 PM, robertb@... wrote:
Also has the wrong ends.
Robert Bogie
On 15/01/2023 11:51 am, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:
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Isn't the InterMountain car missing the vents found on the sides of the prototype?
And the heater.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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On Jan 15, 2023, at 12:34 AM, Richard Townsend via groups.io <richtownsend@...> wrote:
Wasn’t that paint scheme used on more than one kind of car?On Jan 14, 2023, at 5:21 PM, robertb@... wrote:Also has the wrong ends.
Robert Bogie
On 15/01/2023 11:51 am, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:
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Isn't the InterMountain car missing the vents found on the sides of the prototype?
And the heater.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
But to the point, yes, the BAR used a similar RWB scheme on 50' XM's. Some number of their '32 AAR cars did also receive it.
Earl Tuson
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Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY