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A few reefers unloading produce in Chicago
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Hudson Leighton
I don't recognize anything that makes it Minneapolis / St. Paul.
That diagonal conveyor has to be the key to the location. -Hudson |
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Hudson Leighton
I think the truck door says "West New Brighton". Which Mr, Google says is Staten Island. |
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Guy Wilber
Hudson wrote:
"I don't recognize anything that makes it Minneapolis / St. Paul."
Thanks, Hudson! Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada
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Jack Mullen
On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 04:50 PM, Hudson Leighton wrote:
Aha! Thanks, Hudson. The bottom line of lettering resonated in my mind as "Staten Island N.Y." solely based on overall shape, not distinguishing any actual letters, so I wasn't at all sure of that interpretation. That would make Jersey City a plausible nearby location on the Erie, close enough for a Staten Island produce buyer. And Jersey City would indeed belong in the "G-J" volume I cited earlier. I think we've got it. :^) Jack Mullen |
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A Clemens
I think the door reads 139 PAVONIA AVE JERSEY CITY, N.J. On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 4:44 PM Scott H. Haycock <shhaycock@...> wrote:
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A Clemens
OMG! The truck's side, NOT the door!
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Ken O'Brien
Been following this from the start and I seem to think this is the Erie 28th Street yard, looking east from the vicinity of the West Side Highway. The building in the right background looks like the Erie freight-house, with the stepped brick facade. This yard was on the southwest side of Manhattan, served by an Erie float bridge. It was one city block wide and 1.5-2 city blocks long. Eleventh thru 13th Avenues (run north south in Manhattan) There were a number of yards in the vicinity, with the LV and B&O just south of the Erie. All car float served. The NYC had a direct connection further North in Manhattan, so no float bridge needed there. Busy scene, but long closed.
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The two trucks on the right have very interesting body style, one that I have never seen before, the very low sides. It is easy to imagine that the bottom line of lettering on the nearest truck says Staten Island followed by some digits, so perhaps a phone number. Truck ID starting at bottom right and going CW: best guesses per images in "American Truck Spotters Guide" Dodge 48 - 53 foreground truck can't see cab Diamond T late 30's (best guess) or late 30's Federal, or late 30's Stewart Chevrolet 41 - 47, the cutaway front fenders indicates 42 - 45 military truck per "75 Years of Chevrolet" Studebaker 40's Chevrolet canopy delivery van 48 - 55 ?? Very distinctive fender and cab, I don't see a confident match......... perhaps late 30's REO, 40's Federal, car 51 Olds
-- Ted Larson Trainweb.org/MHRR --- GN in 1965 --- NASG.org |
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1940s Mack is another close match to the 10 wheeler near the back right. Ted Larson
On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 09:44:44 AM CDT, T Larson <mhrreast@...> wrote:
The two trucks on the right have very interesting body style, one that I have never seen before, the very low sides. It is easy to imagine that the bottom line of lettering on the nearest truck says Staten Island followed by some digits, so perhaps a phone number. Truck ID starting at bottom right and going CW: best guesses per images in "American Truck Spotters Guide" Dodge 48 - 53 foreground truck can't see cab Diamond T late 30's (best guess) or late 30's Federal, or late 30's Stewart Chevrolet 41 - 47, the cutaway front fenders indicates 42 - 45 military truck per "75 Years of Chevrolet" Studebaker 40's Chevrolet canopy delivery van 48 - 55 ?? Very distinctive fender and cab, I don't see a confident match......... perhaps late 30's REO, 40's Federal, car 51 Olds
-- Ted Larson Trainweb.org/MHRR --- GN in 1965 --- NASG.org |
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Neat shot, I wonder whose team tracks. The photographer is standing on a Santa Fe reefer with Transco running boards and the car number is stenciled in the middle of the roof. On 7/30/2022 6:49 PM, Charlie Duckworth via groups.io wrote: --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Not as good a photo, but this is C&NW's Wood Street yard in the 1920s. On 7/31/2022 6:46 AM, Robert G P wrote:
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anthony wagner
Ah, Wood St yard. Worked many a shift there as a yard clerk in the early 70s. The yard handled almost entirely potatos and onions. The brokers would slice open a random bag of produce and then cut one of the potatos or onions to determine if they were OK and drop the now unsaleable bag on the driveway. Needless to say, no one who worked there had to but potatos or onions with other groceries on shopping day, LOL. Even in 1970-71 ice bunker reefers were used, but as ventilator cars, since neither type of produce required refrigeration. Tony Wagner
On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 10:47:54 AM CDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Not as good a photo, but this is C&NW's Wood Street yard in the 1920s. On 7/31/2022 6:46 AM, Robert G P wrote: Yes,
really enjoyed this. Anyone who has any - post em!
On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 5:34 AM Philip Dove
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Blue Goose watermelons ? On 7/31/2022 6:43 PM, Dennis Storzek via groups.io wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 04:11 PM, Jack Mullen wrote: --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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A destination produce terminal in any large city is going to have a mix of reefer owners no matter whose terminal it is. On 7/31/2022 7:14 PM, Philip Dove wrote:
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I thought that I could just make out "Staten Island" also. :-) On 7/31/2022 7:50 PM, Hudson Leighton wrote:
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Another view of Wood Street.
Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA 
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Todd Sullivan
Neat photo. Is there a date?
Todd Sullivan |
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Jeffrey White
Does anyone know when Santa Fe started this and if it was the complete reporting mark or just the car number? DO I need to put reporting marks on the roofs of my Santa Fe reefers on my 1955 layout? It seems like it would be a neat detail to add. Jeff White Alma IL On 7/31/2022 2:31 PM, Dennis Storzek
via groups.io wrote:
Take notice that the near most reefer on the right (upon which the photographer is standing) has the reporting mark stenciled on the roof, which I think is a Santa Fe thing. Also, for dating purposes, one of the PFE reefers in the distance has the location of the UP and SP heralds reversed, which was done after the plug door cars arrived, but I don't recall the year... In fact, it is a plug door car. |
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PFE also did this on some ice reefers. Reporting mark and car number. You can see the "D" of SFRD in the photo. There were also stencils on ice hatches on some reefers. On 8/1/2022 12:49 PM, Jeffrey White wrote:
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Dennis Storzek
On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 11:49 AM, Jeffrey White wrote:
Does anyone know when Santa Fe started this and if it was the complete reporting mark or just the car number? DO I need to put reporting marks on the roofs of my Santa Fe reefers on my 1955 layout? It seems like it would be a neat detail to add.Yes. You can see in the photo that there are two lines of characters, the near line has a D (which is upside down) the end of SFRD, with the car number below it. The newest vehicle in the photo has been identified as a '51 Oldsmobile so the photo likely dates to the early to mid fifties. Anyone remember when PFE received their first sliding plug door reefers? Dennis Storzek |
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