Atlas Slab-Side Covered Hoppers
The upper (TH&B car) definitely not. The base lettering is likely correct (I'd have to defer to TH&B experts though), but the presence of lube plate, U-1 wheel stencil and the 1967 Confederation logo on the side would push this car into the early 1980s (the lube plate and U-1 stencil are the outliers here).
The lower (CNR car) is correct – this would be one of their very early cars built from 1951 to 1953 (this particular model is from the 1951 order). CN switched to grey cars with red lettering after these early orders, but some of these cars remained in this paint scheme through retirement.
Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
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I'm thinking of pre-ordering a couple of these. Unfortunately Atlas hasn't told us what paint scheme is appropriate for the 1950s. I think these two might be correct. Does anyone know for sure?
Jeff White
Alma IL
Thanks Ian, I didn't even notice the lube plates on the black car.
Jeff White
Alma IL
The upper (TH&B car) definitely not. The base lettering is likely correct (I'd have to defer to TH&B experts though), but the presence of lube plate, U-1 wheel stencil and the 1967 Confederation logo on the side would push this car into the early 1980s (the lube plate and U-1 stencil are the outliers here).
The lower (CNR car) is correct – this would be one of their very early cars built from 1951 to 1953 (this particular model is from the 1951 order). CN switched to grey cars with red lettering after these early orders, but some of these cars remained in this paint scheme through retirement.
Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
lamontc@...
I'm thinking of pre-ordering a couple of these. Unfortunately Atlas hasn't told us what paint scheme is appropriate for the 1950s. I think these two might be correct. Does anyone know for sure?
Jeff White
Alma IL
What the... ? Are these the same tooling as the "True Line Trains" or did Atlas do these from scratch?
On 1/12/2023 2:41 PM, Ian Cranstone wrote:
The upper (TH&B car) definitely not. The base lettering is likely correct (I'd have to defer to TH&B experts though), but the presence of lube plate, U-1 wheel stencil and the 1967 Confederation logo on the side would push this car into the early 1980s (the lube plate and U-1 stencil are the outliers here).
The lower (CNR car) is correct – this would be one of their very early cars built from 1951 to 1953 (this particular model is from the 1951 order). CN switched to grey cars with red lettering after these early orders, but some of these cars remained in this paint scheme through retirement.
Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
lamontc@...
I'm thinking of pre-ordering a couple of these. Unfortunately Atlas hasn't told us what paint scheme is appropriate for the 1950s. I think these two might be correct. Does anyone know for sure?
Jeff White
Alma IL
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Not so much in the STMFC era. Definitely, afterwards.
On 1/12/2023 2:59 PM, Bruce Hendrick wrote:
Does anyone know if this CN hopper would have seen service in the US? And if so, where?
Bruce Hendrick
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
What the... ? Are these the same tooling as the "True Line Trains" or did Atlas do these from scratch?
On 1/12/2023 2:41 PM, Ian Cranstone wrote:
The upper (TH&B car) definitely not. The base lettering is likely correct (I'd have to defer to TH&B experts though), but the presence of lube plate, U-1 wheel stencil and the 1967 Confederation logo on the side would push this car into the early 1980s (the lube plate and U-1 stencil are the outliers here).
The lower (CNR car) is correct – this would be one of their very early cars built from 1951 to 1953 (this particular model is from the 1951 order). CN switched to grey cars with red lettering after these early orders, but some of these cars remained in this paint scheme through retirement.
Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
lamontc@...
On 2023-01-12 14:30, Jeffrey White wrote:
I'm thinking of pre-ordering a couple of these. Unfortunately Atlas hasn't told us what paint scheme is appropriate for the 1950s. I think these two might be correct. Does anyone know for sure?
Jeff White
Alma IL
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Thanks, Gary ! Importers musical chairs it's hard to keep track of it all ! :-)
On 1/12/2023 4:01 PM, Gary Roe wrote:
Tim,Atlas bought the True Line Trains tooling.gary roe
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
I took photos of them on the MILW between Owatonna and Faribault, MN in the 70’s. Well outside this list’s era, however.
Thanks!
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Brian Ehni
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Does anyone know if this CN hopper would have seen service in the US? And if so, where?
Bruce Hendrick
Brea, California
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Thanks, Gary ! Importers musical chairs it's hard to keep track of it all ! :-)
On 1/12/2023 4:01 PM, Gary Roe wrote:
Tim,Atlas bought the True Line Trains tooling.gary roe
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
I took photos of them on the MILW between Owatonna and Faribault, MN in the 70’s. Well outside this list’s era, however.
Thanks!
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Brian Ehni
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Date: Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 2:00 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
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Does anyone know if this CN hopper would have seen service in the US? And if so, where?
Bruce Hendrick
Brea, California
Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone
Among other things. Pictures of them in Iowa and Pennsylvania.
On 1/12/2023 5:42 PM, Robert G P wrote:
What would those have carried stateside? Potash?
-Rob
On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 4:09 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Thanks, Gary ! Importers musical chairs it's hard to keep track of it all ! :-)
On 1/12/2023 4:01 PM, Gary Roe wrote:
Tim,Atlas bought the True Line Trains tooling.gary roe
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
general article about these models including some loads here;
https://railroadmodeling.net/news/slab-side-covered-hopper
Among other things. Pictures of them in Iowa and Pennsylvania.
On 1/12/2023 5:42 PM, Robert G P wrote:
What would those have carried stateside? Potash?
-Rob
On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 4:09 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Thanks, Gary ! Importers musical chairs it's hard to keep track of it all ! :-)
On 1/12/2023 4:01 PM, Gary Roe wrote:
Tim,Atlas bought the True Line Trains tooling.gary roe
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
-- Colin Riley
I bought some of those Sylvan kits. Abominable.
Thanks!
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Brian Ehni
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Date: Friday, January 13, 2023 at 10:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Atlas Slab-Side Covered Hoppers
And my favorite . . . baghouse fume. I looked it up . . . powdered zinc. Mined in western Canada and often shipped to battery plants in CP cars.
Slab side hoppers (both CP and CN) were commonly shipped across Lake Michigan on AA and C&O car ferries carrying potash. That's where my interest in them was first developed. And the Canadian "tank hoppers" too. There were models of them in the past made by Overland (brass) and Sylvan (resin - described on one blog as "the most challenging kit I've ever built"). It would be terrific to see this one produced commercially one day . . . hello, Rapido?
Craig Wilson
Doug Polinder
