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ATSF boxcar
Bruce Bogart
Wayne We solo w ski drew a quaint 36' wood/steel boxcar in the 1973 June issue of RMC. My question is, does this represent an actual car, or is it a bit of imagination? I would like to build one but not if it is not an actual prototype. Thanks in advance for any input. Oh yea it is a Haskill and Barker 1915 build.
Bruce Bogart
Bruce Bogart
Bruce Bogart
After more thought I realized I should provide more info. The cars pictured are 36417 & 36350. It has a steel under frame with truss rods. It says it is a BX2, but when I research that I came up with a USRA car. This is definitely not a USRA car. When I look up those # I came up with modern cars.
Sorry for the omissions.
Sorry for the omissions.
Tom Madden
Bx-Z and Bx-2 are often confused. There were 700 Bx-Z truss rod boxcars built by Haskell & Barker in 1915, so I assume that's what the Wesolowski drawing shows. (I don't have it at hand.) They were numbered 35802-36501. According to Dobyn's Santa Fe boxcar book there were still 35 left in the 1952-56 time frame when they were renumbered into the 36000-36499 series. The table of dimensions and characteristics in the book indicates they were unchanged. Very late survivors.
Tom Madden
Tom Madden
A question if I may. Mr Wesolowski mentions clips to secure the sheet metal roof to the eaves. Are there fasteners visible that secure it? I do not have the Pullman Standard book. I was hoping someone could provide this information. Thank you in advance.
Thank you Mr King for the info that Ann Arbor had a couple of these!
Bruce Bogart
Thank you Mr King for the info that Ann Arbor had a couple of these!
Bruce Bogart
Craig Wilson
An interesting aside to the Bx-Z story is that the Ann Arbor RR had 2 of them, evidently an add on to the AT&SF order.
Whoa... Wait... What...? Any idea of what the AA numbers were for these cars? At their museum room in the Durand (Michigan) depot, the Ann Arbor RR Technical & Historical Assn has a shop ledger book that tracks many of that road's freight cars going way back to the early days of the railroad. One can look up individual car numbers to find out when they were built, had major work done on them, and disposition dates (sold/scrapped/wrecked). I found useful info there regarding when certain single-sheath cars were converted to AB brakes, got special loading equipment, etc. If I could learn what the car numbers were on these two cars, I would took to see if they are included in this ledger book on my next trip to the museum room.
Craig Wilson
who might know more about AA freight cars than any sane person ought to
Whoa... Wait... What...? Any idea of what the AA numbers were for these cars? At their museum room in the Durand (Michigan) depot, the Ann Arbor RR Technical & Historical Assn has a shop ledger book that tracks many of that road's freight cars going way back to the early days of the railroad. One can look up individual car numbers to find out when they were built, had major work done on them, and disposition dates (sold/scrapped/wrecked). I found useful info there regarding when certain single-sheath cars were converted to AB brakes, got special loading equipment, etc. If I could learn what the car numbers were on these two cars, I would took to see if they are included in this ledger book on my next trip to the museum room.
Craig Wilson
who might know more about AA freight cars than any sane person ought to
Dennis Storzek
On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 12:49 PM, Bruce Bogart wrote:
However, these roofs didn't last long and were replaced early since they couldn't deal with what was called weaving; racking of the roof structure as the carbody twisted on uneven track. Here is a photo I found on the web of the body of a slightly older Santa Fe Bx-X car:
It looks like the replacement was one of the "flexible" metal roofs like the Murphy XLA. The metal seam caps are about 3/4" x 4"; no clips along the eave.
Dennis Storzek
A question if I may. Mr Wesolowski mentions clips to secure the sheet metal roof to the eaves. Are there fasteners visible that secure it? I do not have the Pullman Standard book. I was hoping someone could provide this information. Thank you in advance.The early outside metal roofs tended to have "clips" along the eaves; metal angles screwed to the fascia that bear on the roof sheet to hold them down. Here is a portion of a builder photo of a Soo Line boxcar showing these:
However, these roofs didn't last long and were replaced early since they couldn't deal with what was called weaving; racking of the roof structure as the carbody twisted on uneven track. Here is a photo I found on the web of the body of a slightly older Santa Fe Bx-X car:
It looks like the replacement was one of the "flexible" metal roofs like the Murphy XLA. The metal seam caps are about 3/4" x 4"; no clips along the eave.
Dennis Storzek