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mel perry
http://industrialscenery.blogspot.com/2016/03/carrying-automobiles-in-boxcars.html reposted from s-scale@groups.io courtesy of rich gajnak ;-) mel perry
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Bill Parks
One of the comments says "The horizontal white stripe on the door indicates that the car has automobile-loading racks". Was this "standard" across all railroads, or just for certain roads? I ask, because not all of the cars shown have the stripe (for instance SP 64210).
-- Bill Parks Cumming, GA Modelling the Seaboard Airline in Central Florida
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Guy Wilber
Bill wrote: “One of the comments says, The horizontal white stripe on the door indicates that the car has automobile-loading racks". Was this "standard" across all railroads, or just for certain roads? I ask, because not all of the cars shown have the stripe (for instance SP 64210).” The 3” wide white stripe was the original standard marking for cars equipped with auto loading devices as adopted by the ARA in 1933. The stripe was to be applied to the right door, though (early on) many roads decorated both doors. The right door on SP 64210 is obscured by the automobile, but the stripe is (more than likely) there. Guy Wilber Reno, Nevada
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Bill Parks
Guy -
Thanks for the info -- Bill Parks Cumming, GA Modelling the Seaboard Airline in Central Florida
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Guy Wilber
Bill,
You are most welcome, but I jumped the gun...follows is the correct date and information from an earlier post. The ARA adopted the white stripe as an indicator for cars equipped with permanent auto racks on May 3, 1934. As originally adopted Note 13 to Figure 1 of the Manual read: Note 13-- For automobile boxcars, equipped with automobile loading racks, a 3-inch white stripe is to be painted on the right hand door, facing side of cars, extending full width of door, approximately 3 feet above the floor line and, immediately above this stripe the words, "Auto Rack" are to be stenciled in white letters 2 inches high; this marking to be applied to both sides of car. Regards, Guy Wilber Reno, Nevada ,_
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Here is a better view of the white stripe on an SP XMR car repainted in 1958. This car also has the 'combination' roof for stowage of the interior automobile rack.
On 11/19/2020 11:04 PM, Guy Wilber via groups.io wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Tim and friends, What I didn't see mentioned in this thread (or missed) is the coding on and below the strip. Did this indicate the make and model of vehicle for which these racks were configured, or was it a pool number which would pretty much amount to the same thing? As models changed, particularly as wheelbases changed, the Evans racks had to be adjusted or modified to fit. I can't read what's on the strip, but the text below it seems to read "16F5". Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 11:13 AM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Was the white stripe requirement ever dropped?
Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Kenneth Montero
Notice the tubes sticking below the floor. Chains used with the loaders were stored there when not in used with the auto-loaders.
Ken Montero
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vapeurchapelon
When I see the bulbous end I think loading/ unloading must have been very rough... ;-)
Johannes
Modeling the early postwar years up to about 1953
Gesendet: Freitag, 20. November 2020 um 17:13 Uhr
Von: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@...> An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] automobile boxcars Here is a better view of the white stripe on an SP XMR car repainted in 1958. This car also has the 'combination' roof for stowage of the interior automobile rack. On 11/19/2020 11:04 PM, Guy Wilber via groups.io wrote:
-- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Guy Wilber
Garth Groff wrote:
“What I didn't see mentioned in this thread (or missed) is the coding on and below the strip. Did this indicate the make and model of vehicle for which these racks were configured, or was it a pool number which would pretty much amount to the same thing? As models changed, particularly as wheelbases changed, the Evans racks had to be adjusted or modified to fit. I can't read what's on the strip, but the text below it seems to read "16F5". The door marking had nothing to do with makes and models of automobiles. Evans Type “F” Auto Loaders with a total of 16 chain tubes or a combination of tubes and floor brackets to accommodate five automobiles. Typically, only in a fifty foot car. Guy Wilber Reno, Nevada
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william darnaby
My NMRA reprint of the 1/53 ORER has all of this info on page 721 just preceding a 9 page listing of all cars for all roads so equipped. Check your ORER’s of that period.
Bill Darnaby
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Guy Wilber via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 11:48 AM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] automobile boxcars
Garth Groff wrote:
“What I didn't see mentioned in this thread (or missed) is the coding on and below the strip. Did this indicate the make and model of vehicle for which these racks were configured, or was it a pool number which would pretty much amount to the same thing? As models changed, particularly as wheelbases changed, the Evans racks had to be adjusted or modified to fit. I can't read what's on the strip, but the text below it seems to read "16F5"
The door marking had nothing to do with makes and models of automobiles.
Evans Type “F” Auto Loaders with a total of 16 chain tubes or a combination of tubes and floor brackets to accommodate five automobiles. Typically, only in a fifty foot car.
Guy Wilber Reno, Nevada
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Guy Wilber
Bob Chaparro asked, “Was the white stripe requirement ever dropped?” Not within the timeframe of this list. I doubt it was ever dropped, the cars simply fell out of favor as railroads progressed with larger open rack type equipment of the late 1950s and into the 1960s. Guy Wilber Reno, Nevada N Not _,_._,_
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Garth 16F-5 yes I don't know what it means - but the car has a 16 foot wide door opening - could it handle 5 autos inside?
On 11/20/2020 12:08 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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np328
While looking through some paperwork, I recalled a post from last month where Tim O' asked "could it handle 5 autos inside?"
While providing no answers to the 16 foot opening or the 16F5 , read the middle paragraph of the attachment. Back in 1922, judge for yourself however to me, it does appear the automakers were getting 5 autos in 50 foot cars. Jim Dick - St. Paul, MN
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Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi Jim and List Members,
Jim wrote: "Back in 1922, judge for yourself however to me, it does appear
the automakers were getting 5 autos in 50 foot cars"
Interesting reading, thanks Jim for the scan of the letter. I would say
though, that in 1922, 50 foot boxcars would have been somewhat rare in
railroading in general.
That being said, Railmodel Journal July 1995 page 16 sez "The Northern
pacific was an early exponent of 50-foot auto cars, receiving a 1,000 cars [sic]
in the 6000-6999 series from General American in 1923"
Claus Schlund
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