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Boo-Rim HO brass Vinegar Cars

Andy Carlson
 


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North Bank Line imports HO brass items, kind of taking over for retired W&R. Using Boo-Rim almost exclusively, Ed Austin's NBL has brought out some very high quality and accurate imports. Just 2 days ago he made this initial announcement for HO Vinegar tank cars. The reporting marks are SBIX, which is Standard Brands (think Hellman and Best Foods mayonaise) and FTCX, which is Fleischman (Think of yeast). Years ago Sunshine Models brought out a daunting vinegar car and one prototype exists at the Perris, CA Orange Empire RR museum. Many years ago I saw Jerry Spolema and our own Brain Leppert  scrutinizing the museums vinegar tank car to allow Jerry detail information to make an accurate model from the SS kit. Jerry said the additions and the build were very time consuming and I suspect many of the Sunshine kits remain unbuilt.

Anyhow, if anyone wants any of these Boo Rim HO vinegar cars I am able to offer them for my cost plus 10%. In some time secure reservations will be required to be accompanied by a non-refundable deposit. Like most importers today, only the reserved amounts will be built with little to zero extras. Ed has been very good at doing direct shipments to my customers, which does a great savings on shipping. Figure about a year for these will be shipped.

More information will be shared when available.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 11:15:55 AM PST, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Vinegar Cars

Photo courtesy of Brian Rochon on the Groups.io PRR group.

He comments:

The attached image shows the American Cider & Vinegar Company in 1931 along the Northern Central Railway in the Woodberry neighborhood of northwest Baltimore. The image is from the archives of the University of Maryland, Baltimore County and shows a string of ACVX tank cars (ACVX 53, 51, 49 , 45, 46 & 42 can be made out) as well as PRR position light signal N43. The facility is still in use as Fleischmann’s Vinegar although the PPR tracks have been replaced by the Baltimore Light Raillink tracks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Ian MacKellar
 

Do you have any idea of a ballpark price tag? $250 $500 $1000?

Andy Carlson
 

This early in the process involves sending data and asking for pricing. This is too early at this stage to even estimate. My own unofficial guess????? About $400, but that is a WAG!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 07:03:10 AM PST, Ian MacKellar <cncaboose@...> wrote:


Do you have any idea of a ballpark price tag? $250 $500 $1000?
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Tim O'Connor
 


My guess would be closer to the $1000 than to the $500

On 12/1/2022 10:02 AM, Ian MacKellar wrote:

Do you have any idea of a ballpark price tag? $250 $500 $1000?
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

spsalso
 

Wow, these cars lasted a long time.

Here's one in 1977 parked about 12 miles south of my present location:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=5625857

Of course, it's not showing any fancy lettering on the side.

Because SBIX 1635 and 1641 were added after 1950, I'm going to assume that that lettering is "the later scheme" (red roman).  Seems it should be the other way--maybe I/we will learn more on the matter.


Anyway, I'm quite tempted.  Seems it might be wise of Mr. Austin to prepare and share a data package, if he is interested in increased sales.

Can a helium car be far behind?


Ed

Edward Sutorik

Fritz Milhaupt
 

The ACI plate is just the perfect touch on the car in that photo Ed linked to.

I'd hoped to avoid the whole pickle and vinegar business, but in the 1940s the Pere Marquette served a lot of pickling stations throughout Michigan, plus a Heinz plant in Holland, just up the line from what I'm modeling.

If it can come in under $500, I'll have to consider it.

- Fritz Milhaupt

spsalso
 

Here's a link to a blog with a couple of color shots of SBIX cars:

https://industrialscenery.blogspot.com/2018/01/tank-car-history.html

I see they were painted aluminum, at least the ones with the black lettering.  I see the two cars also have black serif lettering, not listed on the offering.  I wonder what's with that?

Yup.  Look forward to more information on these.


Ed

Edward Sutorik

Steve SANDIFER
 

Three preserved ones I have seen. Orange Empire/SoCalRRMus has SBIX 1651 but the last time I was there it was under a tarp. Painted light green.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of spsalso via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 8:14 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Boo-Rim HO brass Vinegar Cars

 

Here's a link to a blog with a couple of color shots of SBIX cars:

https://industrialscenery.blogspot.com/2018/01/tank-car-history.html

I see they were painted aluminum, at least the ones with the black lettering.  I see the two cars also have black serif lettering, not listed on the offering.  I wonder what's with that?

Yup.  Look forward to more information on these.


Ed

Edward Sutorik

Andy Laurent
 

RVCX 20 (Richter Vinegar) is next in line for restoration work at the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay, WI.

Andy L.
NRM Board Member

Scott Kremer
 

I model the GN in the fifties, including the Speas Vinegar plant in Wenatchee.  Speas had cars that appear to be the same as the SBIX cars except the color seems to be quite different.  The photos I have are all black and white but the shading shows that they are somewhat darker in color than white or silver..  Does anyone have any information on the color of the Speas cars?

Thanks,

Scott Kremer

On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:13 PM, spsalso via groups.io <Edwardsutorik@...> wrote:

Here's a link to a blog with a couple of color shots of SBIX cars:

https://industrialscenery.blogspot.com/2018/01/tank-car-history.html

I see they were painted aluminum, at least the ones with the black lettering.  I see the two cars also have black serif lettering, not listed on the offering.  I wonder what's with that?

Yup.  Look forward to more information on these.


Ed

Edward Sutorik

Tim O'Connor
 

Scott

General American made several variations of this design (see 3 attached photos) that have seen almost no
interest at all from modelers, even though these cars lasted as least as long as the often seen Standard Brands
cars done in HO resin and now, evidently, as brass models.

One of the photos shows SPEAS vinegar cars (according to the whomever posted that photo in 2008) in Denver.

The heavy fishbelly center sills and the Type 30 tank car bolster ends really make these cars noticeable. :-)


On 12/2/2022 9:23 AM, Scott Kremer wrote:

I model the GN in the fifties, including the Speas Vinegar plant in Wenatchee.  Speas had cars that appear to be the same as the SBIX cars except the color seems to be quite different.  The photos I have are all black and white but the shading shows that they are somewhat darker in color than white or silver..  Does anyone have any information on the color of the Speas cars?

Thanks,

Scott Kremer

On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:13 PM, spsalso via groups.io <Edwardsutorik@...> wrote:
Here's a link to a blog with a couple of color shots of SBIX cars:

https://industrialscenery.blogspot.com/2018/01/tank-car-history.html

I see they were painted aluminum, at least the ones with the black lettering.  I see the two cars also have black serif lettering, not listed on the offering.  I wonder what's with that?

Yup.  Look forward to more information on these.


Ed

Edward Sutorik


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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