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Brewery Locomotive ID

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Friends,

Indulge me a bit here. This isn't strictly about freight cars, but I've spent hours trying to ID the attached photo of a 1927 Mack truck used as a switching locomotive I shot sometime in the 1960s. It was at a brewery in Oregon or Washington.

Any help would be appreciated.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆

Charlie Vlk
 

Garth-

I googled “Lucky Vancouver Railroad Brewery” and it returned the Lucky Lager the first beer produced by the 1934  General Brewing Company in California which formed a strategic partnership with Coast Breweries in Vancouver Island, BC and other Canadian breweries.   It expanded in the 50’s and 60’s as Lucky Lager Brewing Company in Vancouver WA….which is likely the venue for the photo.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 1:48 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Brewery Locomotive ID

 

Friends,

 

Indulge me a bit here. This isn't strictly about freight cars, but I've spent hours trying to ID the attached photo of a 1927 Mack truck used as a switching locomotive I shot sometime in the 1960s. It was at a brewery in Oregon or Washington.

 

Any help would be appreciated.


Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆

Brian Rochon
 

Garth,

 

The photo appears to show chain drive on the truck.  Assuming the 1927 date is accurate, the cab and radiator indicate that this is probably an AC model Mack.

 

v/r

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 4:09 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Brewery Locomotive ID

 

Garth-

I googled “Lucky Vancouver Railroad Brewery” and it returned the Lucky Lager the first beer produced by the 1934  General Brewing Company in California which formed a strategic partnership with Coast Breweries in Vancouver Island, BC and other Canadian breweries.   It expanded in the 50’s and 60’s as Lucky Lager Brewing Company in Vancouver WA….which is likely the venue for the photo.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 1:48 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Brewery Locomotive ID

 

Friends,

 

Indulge me a bit here. This isn't strictly about freight cars, but I've spent hours trying to ID the attached photo of a 1927 Mack truck used as a switching locomotive I shot sometime in the 1960s. It was at a brewery in Oregon or Washington.

 

Any help would be appreciated.


Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Friends,

Thank you to Charlie and Brian for the help. I had already tried a variation of the search Charlie suggested and didn't get good results. With his suggestion, I tried again with a different structure and got a site which answered the question: https://www.brewerygems.com/lucky.htm . It is indeed at the Lucky Lager brewery in Vancouver, Washington.

Brian is right in that the machine is a Mack, and of 1927 vintage. And I agree, it likely is an AC "Bulldog", though some other Macks also had chain drive (Models AP and FN were two). I had that part. And for our faithful Moderator/Sheriff, this thing batted around freight cars for many, many years. It even seems to have a coupler on its rear end.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆


On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 4:08 PM Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...> wrote:

Garth-

I googled “Lucky Vancouver Railroad Brewery” and it returned the Lucky Lager the first beer produced by the 1934  General Brewing Company in California which formed a strategic partnership with Coast Breweries in Vancouver Island, BC and other Canadian breweries.   It expanded in the 50’s and 60’s as Lucky Lager Brewing Company in Vancouver WA….which is likely the venue for the photo.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 1:48 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Brewery Locomotive ID

 

Friends,

 

Indulge me a bit here. This isn't strictly about freight cars, but I've spent hours trying to ID the attached photo of a 1927 Mack truck used as a switching locomotive I shot sometime in the 1960s. It was at a brewery in Oregon or Washington.

 

Any help would be appreciated.


Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆

Doug Auburg
 

I grew up with this “locomotive” being a part of the everyday scenery in Vancouver.

 

As others have said, it was a Bulldog Mac.  For most of its life working as the switcher for the Lucky Larger Brewery in Vancouver, Washington it looked stock.  The story I’ve heard is that sometime in the ‘60’s students at the local community college (Clark College) decided it should look more like a steam loco and fabricated the sheet metal body shown in the picture.  The truck was routinely stored on the street outside the brewery, so was a common sight when driving by.  There was track in the street up the to brewery and the Mack was used to move box cars between the brewery and the SP&S (later BN) yard.

 

The truck disappeared when the brewery was closed.

 

Doug Auburg

Battle Ground WA

spsalso
 

espee4441
 

Was the brewery in Battle Ground or Vancouver? My quick search didn't yield an address. Never explored your neck of the woods but certainly been along the mainlines enough times. Funny thing about it being brewed up in Olympia after 85 since I remember the "Oly" sign so clearly in 87.
Tony Pawley

Doug Auburg
 

1c. 

Re: Brewery Locomotive ID
From: espee4441
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 17:20:59 PST

Was the brewery in Battle Ground or Vancouver? My quick search didn't yield an address. Never explored your neck of the woods but certainly been along the mainlines enough times. Funny thing about it being brewed up in Olympia after 85 since I remember the "Oly" sign so clearly in 87.
Tony Pawley

 

Tony,

The brewery was located in Vancouver in the block between Washington and Columbia Streets and, as I recall, between 6th & 8th Streets.  Theres a Hilton Hotel & a convention center on that block now.  The track was on Columbia Street and ran south toward the SP&S mainline which headed east from Vancouver.  The SP&S grade is elevated at this point with Columbia Street passing underneath.  I dont recall how or where the siding joined SP&S track though I suspect that it turned to the west and joined at or near the Vancouver rail yard as the mainline is at grade over there.

There was a giant red neon Lucky Larger sign on the top of the brewery that was the highlight of the Vancouver skyline when exiting the Interstate Bridge which carries I-5 across the Columbia River from Oregon to Washington (see attached picture I found on line).

Doug

(if this is a second posting, I apologize.  I got a kickback indicating that my first try was rejected)

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spsalso
 

I see that that round "apartment building" is in the background of the photo I submitted.


Ed

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