Eastern seaboard Models XIH
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Did anyone pick up the new eastern seaboard models State of Maine boxcars either the New Haven or Bangor & Aroostook? I was wondering how well they did them.
Brian J. Carlson -- Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga NY |
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robertb@smartchat.net.au
Brian, There are some good photos in this link. Details such as grab irons, steps and ladders, etc, etc are about C&BT shops standard. Assembly of the roof doesn't look well done as it sticks up towards the ends. ESM HO XIH Boxcar production run photos | The Atlas Rescue Forum (proboards.com) Robert Bogie On 13/01/2023 12:09 pm, Brian Carlson
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Did anyone pick up the new eastern seaboard models State of Maine boxcars either the New Haven or Bangor & Aroostook? I was wondering how well they did them. Brian J. Carlson |
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Thanks. What’s up with that diagonal panel roof? Were the panels that pronounced?
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Brian J. Carlson On Jan 13, 2023, at 2:26 AM, robertb@... wrote:
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No. Very poorly done roof, unfortunately. Maybe they just "scaled up" the N scale model. But it's a cool prototype, and the model probably will sell well anyway. Attached is a reasonably good view of the prototype early SRE diagonal panel roof. On later versions of the SRE roof the narrow stamping is as long as the wide one, going out to the edge where it bends downward. On 1/13/2023 9:10 AM, Brian Carlson via groups.io wrote: Thanks. What’s up with that diagonal panel roof? Were the panels that pronounced? --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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It is a cool prototype but based on the roof alone I think I’ll pass unless I can see on to determine how easy it is to remove and replace the roof. We look at roofs 90% of the time on our layouts. It’s an important detail. This roof may be worse than the Intermountain rectangular panel roof. Brian J. Carlson On Jan 13, 2023, at 10:57 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Brian
Hahaha !! Worse than the worst? That's a hard call to make, because there are so many poorly done roofs... and ends... and doors... and trucks... and sides... and underframes... :-D If the car's dimensions are accurate it should not be too hard to replace the roof with a better one. :-) On 1/13/2023 11:03 AM, Brian Carlson via groups.io wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Guy Wilber
Tim O'Connor wrote;
“Hahaha !! Worse than the worst? That's a hard call to make,
because there are so many poorly done roofs... and ends... and doors... and trucks... and sides... and
underframes... :-D If the car's dimensions are accurate it should not be too hard
to replace the roof with a better one. :-)”. I have never been one to whine about today’s prices, but at $85.00 a pop no one should have to change much on a freight car model. The roof is poorly done, the ladders, sill steps and grabs are just as bad. The underframe and brake gear are pretty weak as well. The brake release rod must be close to 4 inches in diameter. A car I’ve admired since it was featured on Athearn’s boxes and was looking forward to a decent offering. Guy Wilber Reno, Nevada I_,_._,_ |
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OMG Guy again I never looked at the price! WOW. I have many very good brass models I bought for much less than $85 ! Crazy. Yeah, no thanks, I'll just build the resin kit if I want one. :-) On 1/13/2023 5:42 PM, Guy Wilber via groups.io wrote: Tim O'Connor wrote; --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Honestly looks like a model tooled in the 1960’s. With RTR models such as Exactrail and Tangent being the benchmark I can’t imagine how these ever reached the production stage with the bizarre roof and oversized details. I looked at their web site and they show only 12 or 13 of each number being in stock which is odd considering they are just released. At $84.50 plus $9 shipping you have to wonder who’s buying these? |
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Jay Styron
When I saw the ad, it reminded me that I wanted one of these cars in my boxcar roster, mainly because I grew up in Maine, so it was a sentimental want. I looked on eBay, and found that every model manufacturer in history has done them. For me this is more a paint scheme model than anything else, so I bought an Intermountain model for half the price of this new one. The paint and lettering is well done, and it’s a decent model. Problem solved.
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Jay Styron
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Jay Styron Fallbrook, CA |
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Charlie
On the other hand, I have one of the N scale cars -- a gift for my help with photos of late-era cars. It's pretty good, since I can barely see anything that small. :-D I ask myself the same question about Rapido (i.e. massive number of new models). WHO is buying all that stuff? :-) On 1/14/2023 7:24 AM, Charlie Duckworth via groups.io wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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I admit that's a surprise !! I wasn't aware that Intermountain ever did a 1937 AAR box car with plug doors !! On 1/14/2023 10:22 AM, Jay Styron wrote: When I saw the ad, it reminded me that I wanted one of these cars in my boxcar roster, mainly because I grew up in Maine, so it was a sentimental want. I looked on eBay, and found that every model manufacturer in history has done them. For me this is more a paint scheme model than anything else, so I bought an Intermountain model for half the price of this new one. The paint and lettering is well done, and it’s a decent model. Problem solved. --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Isn't the InterMountain car missing the vents found on the sides of the prototype?
And the heater. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA  |
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Yes Intermountain is a stand in at best. I was hoping the ESM car would settle my fix for one but alas nope.
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Brian J. Carlson On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:52 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
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robertb@smartchat.net.au
Also has the wrong ends. Robert Bogie On 15/01/2023 11:51 am, Bob Chaparro
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Richard Townsend
Wasn’t that paint scheme used on more than one kind of car?
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On Jan 14, 2023, at 5:21 PM, robertb@... wrote:
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On the B&A yes. But the XIH being 21.4% of the B&A fleet in 56 makes it a noteworthy car. It’s also unique with the heater and vents.
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The Yarmouth postwar ACF is 23.8% of the fleet Some of those got the RWB treatment. The 1932 ARA is 30.5 % of the fleet not sure if any of them got RWB paint. Brian J. Carlson On Jan 15, 2023, at 12:34 AM, Richard Townsend via groups.io <richtownsend@...> wrote:
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Earl Tuson
Brian must have mistyped: this thread is about BAR cars, and the B&A had nothing like this.
But to the point, yes, the BAR used a similar RWB scheme on 50' XM's. Some number of their '32 AAR cars did also receive it. Earl Tuson |
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My earlier email response seems to have gotten lost in the ether so I'll try again. No mistype. I used to call the Bangor and Aroostook RR the BAR until some folks in Maine corrected me and said it was the B&A. Now I suppose they could have been pulling my New York leg. But I Chose to believe them. Earl is right about the 50 ft. cars. Unfortunately, they were a small part of the fleet in the 1950's Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga NY
On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 07:33:59 AM EST, Earl Tuson <etuson@...> wrote:
Brian must have mistyped: this thread is about BAR cars, and the B&A had nothing like this. But to the point, yes, the BAR used a similar RWB scheme on 50' XM's. Some number of their '32 AAR cars did also receive it. Earl Tuson -- Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga NY |
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