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Firecracker Antennas


Nelson Moyer
 

While setting up my new Athearn CB&Q GP-7 241, I noticed a firecracker antenna on the roof. Athearn’s CB&Q GP-7 218 doesn’t have one. What year were firecracker antennas introduced? My F units with antennas all have wagon wheels, so I’m trying to avoid anachronisms. I have photos of #241 with and without the firecracker antenna, but I don’t have any information about when it was installed. The side sill strips are red and yellow before Scotchlite safety stipes were used. One of my 241 photos also has a GP-30 I Chinese Red and Gray, if that helps date the firecracker.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

 


mark_landgraf
 

The answer is the mid 1960s

They are still manufactured by Antenna Specialist model ASP-16. It's 11.4 inches tall. It currently sells for $293. 

Looking in the Diesel Spotters Guide the GP-18 in 1963 had one. 

U25B and U28C manufactured in the mid 1960s had them. 

Mark Landgraf


On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 5:48 PM, Nelson Moyer
<npmoyer@...> wrote:

While setting up my new Athearn CB&Q GP-7 241, I noticed a firecracker antenna on the roof. Athearn’s CB&Q GP-7 218 doesn’t have one. What year were firecracker antennas introduced? My F units with antennas all have wagon wheels, so I’m trying to avoid anachronisms. I have photos of #241 with and without the firecracker antenna, but I don’t have any information about when it was installed. The side sill strips are red and yellow before Scotchlite safety stipes were used. One of my 241 photos also has a GP-30 I Chinese Red and Gray, if that helps date the firecracker.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

 


Schleigh Mike
 

Hello Nelson and Group!

The ERIE was installing FM radios on locos and cabooses in the early 1950s, 1951 I think.  The 'firecracker' antenna was typical.  There was a contemporary TRAINS article describing their installation from end-to-end of the system.  I have it handy somewhere but surely buried right now.  Bt the way, many of those locomotives pulled freight trains and those cabooses typically were found on the rear end of those freight trains.

Surely other RRs were doing contemporary radios too with firecrackers. 

Mike Schleigh in Grove City, Penna. where most of the autumn leaves have been harvested.

On Wednesday, November 4, 2020, 05:48:00 PM EST, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:


While setting up my new Athearn CB&Q GP-7 241, I noticed a firecracker antenna on the roof. Athearn’s CB&Q GP-7 218 doesn’t have one. What year were firecracker antennas introduced? My F units with antennas all have wagon wheels, so I’m trying to avoid anachronisms. I have photos of #241 with and without the firecracker antenna, but I don’t have any information about when it was installed. The side sill strips are red and yellow before Scotchlite safety stipes were used. One of my 241 photos also has a GP-30 I Chinese Red and Gray, if that helps date the firecracker.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

 


Nelson Moyer
 

The CB&Q rebuilt several steel waycars with radios in the late 1940, but they used wagon wheel antennas into the early 1950. I received an off group reply suggesting that the firecracker antennas weren’t used on the CB&Q before 1960. I model 1954. I’ll post the question on the CBQ group and see if any old timers know the answer.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Schleigh Mike via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2020 7:56 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Firecracker Antennas

 

Hello Nelson and Group!

 

The ERIE was installing FM radios on locos and cabooses in the early 1950s, 1951 I think.  The 'firecracker' antenna was typical.  There was a contemporary TRAINS article describing their installation from end-to-end of the system.  I have it handy somewhere but surely buried right now.  Bt the way, many of those locomotives pulled freight trains and those cabooses typically were found on the rear end of those freight trains.

 

Surely other RRs were doing contemporary radios too with firecrackers. 

 

Mike Schleigh in Grove City, Penna. where most of the autumn leaves have been harvested.

 

On Wednesday, November 4, 2020, 05:48:00 PM EST, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

 

 

While setting up my new Athearn CB&Q GP-7 241, I noticed a firecracker antenna on the roof. Athearn’s CB&Q GP-7 218 doesn’t have one. What year were firecracker antennas introduced? My F units with antennas all have wagon wheels, so I’m trying to avoid anachronisms. I have photos of #241 with and without the firecracker antenna, but I don’t have any information about when it was installed. The side sill strips are red and yellow before Scotchlite safety stipes were used. One of my 241 photos also has a GP-30 I Chinese Red and Gray, if that helps date the firecracker.

 

Nelson Moyer