GN 2527
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Richard Remiarz
Greetings,
Yesterday I finished GN 2527, a baggage express boxcar. It is built from an Intermountain kit. The car was upgraded with a detailed underframe (including scratch built Universal rotary slack adjuster). A number of Yarmouth parts were used to detail the car. Cal Scale steam, signal, and air hoses were added along with Timken roller bearing trucks. Marker light brackets and a sill step under the door were added to represent the 25 cars 10’ 12-panel boxcars that the GN built for passenger service.
Sincerely, Rich Remiarz Vadnais Heights, MN
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Paul Doggett
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That’s very nicely done. Paul Doggett. England 🏴 On 31 Jan 2023, at 15:45, Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:
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Very nice. Who makes those timken trucks? Brian J. Carlson On Jan 31, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:
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Richard Remiarz
I am sending new photos. Joe Binish pointed out that I sent the old photo I had shown him yesterday. That photo showed the car with one Timken and one Andrews truck. I had bought several packages of EB Products Timken trucks. One of the packages was miss-labelled and contained Andrews trucks. I didn’t notice this as I weathered the trucks. Joe pointed it out and I replaced the Andrews truck later in the day. I neglected to delete my old photo.
Here are the new photos with two Timken trucks. I deleted the old photos.
Rich Remiarz
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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 10:00 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GN 2527
Brian J. Carlson
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gtws00
Nicely done Rich,
Thanks for sharing your work Can you share a photo of the underframe? George Toman |
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Very nicely done.
I am also very impressed with the “seamless” transition from actual scenery to the background!
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Remiarz
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 9:45 AM To: realstmfc@groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] GN 2527
Greetings,
Yesterday I finished GN 2527, a baggage express boxcar. It is built from an Intermountain kit. The car was upgraded with a detailed underframe (including scratch built Universal rotary slack adjuster). A number of Yarmouth parts were used to detail the car. Cal Scale steam, signal, and air hoses were added along with Timken roller bearing trucks. Marker light brackets and a sill step under the door were added to represent the 25 cars 10’ 12-panel boxcars that the GN built for passenger service.
Sincerely, Rich Remiarz Vadnais Heights, MN
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Well done on this GN car as well Fenton On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 10:45 AM Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:
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Dave Lawler
Richard, That is a great looking model. I’m forwarding the pictures to my neighbor who is heavy into the GN. One question, are my 78 year old eyes failing or does that car have one Roller bearing truck and one solid bearing truck? If so, why would they do that? Best regards, Dave Lawler Avon Lake, Ohio
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Dave Lawler
Sorry, now I understand the trucks are not supposed to be that way. I'll have to cancel my eye doctor appointment. And again, very nice model. Dave Lawler |
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Richard Remiarz
Here you go George. I used the brake cylinder, AB valve, and reservoir from the kit but replaced all of the piping and rods
Rich Remiarz
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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 10:19 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GN 2527
Nicely done Rich,
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Richard Remiarz
The car was built as part of my Master Builder Cars AP award. I am having the remaining cars for the award judged tomorrow, so I have several cars on the work bench in progress (to be completed today). The trucks have real springs, which have a habit of jumping out if the truck twists, which it did several times while building the car. A couple of springs went flying on my workbench, and haven’t been found yet. I had to open a second package of the trucks, and decided it was easier to swap trucks than take replacement springs out of the second package of trucks. I then weathered the car (and the trucks) and took some photos I shared with some friends. Joe Binish pointed out that the car had two different trucks. I hadn’t noticed that the second package of Timken trucks actually had Andrews trucks in the package. I guess I am the one that needs an eye doctor appointment. I am glad that Joe noticed before the judging tomorrow. To top it off, I took new photos with the proper trucks, but neglected to delete the old photos, which I posted to this list.
Joe also suggested I add Kadee brake pads to the trucks to prevent the trucks from swiveling along the bolster and losing springs. I did and haven’t lost a spring since.
Rich Remiarz
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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 12:27 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GN 2527
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Richard Townsend
Reagrding Tinken trucks, Central Valley made Timken trucks and with the springs blackened, in my opinion, they look very good. Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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From: Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Tue, Jan 31, 2023 11:05 am Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GN 2527 The car was built as part of my Master Builder Cars AP award. I am having the remaining cars for the award judged tomorrow, so I have several cars on the work bench in progress (to be completed today). The trucks have real springs, which
have a habit of jumping out if the truck twists, which it did several times while building the car. A couple of springs went flying on my workbench, and haven’t been found yet. I had to open a second package of the trucks, and decided it was easier to swap
trucks than take replacement springs out of the second package of trucks. I then weathered the car (and the trucks) and took some photos I shared with some friends. Joe Binish pointed out that the car had two different trucks. I hadn’t noticed that the
second package of Timken trucks actually had Andrews trucks in the package. I guess I am the one that needs an eye doctor appointment. I am glad that Joe noticed before the judging tomorrow. To top it off, I took new photos with the proper trucks, but neglected
to delete the old photos, which I posted to this list.
Joe also suggested I add Kadee brake pads to the trucks to prevent the trucks from swiveling along the bolster and losing springs. I did and haven’t lost a spring since.
Rich Remiarz
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From: Dave Lawler
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 12:27 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GN 2527 Sorry, now I understand the trucks are not supposed to be that way. I'll have to cancel my eye doctor appointment. And again, very nice model. Dave Lawler |
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Lester Breuer
Rich Fine work. On the underbody the universal rotary slack adjuster - a Wow, looks fabulous.
Lester Breuer |
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Steve Hile,
Yes, Rich did a great job with the background/drop ... the depth of field in the second picture definitely helps make that transition more acceptable. Isn't it amazing that our eyes have so much depth of field at so many different lighting values! - Jim in the PNW |
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Rich,
Great model. In case people don't know ... it was not unheard of for a car to have two different trucks under it. Didn't happen "often" and, perhaps, was temporary ... but it did happen. Of course, for a contest model you might have to include photo evidence of that. ;-( - Jim in the PNW |
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Benjamin Hom
Rich Remiarz wrote: "The trucks have real springs, which have a habit of jumping out if the truck twists, which it did several times while building the car. A couple of springs went flying on my workbench, and haven’t been found yet. I had to open a second package of the trucks, and decided it was easier to swap trucks than take replacement springs out of the second package of trucks." The easy way around this is to just say no to sprung trucks (if there is a quality non-sprung option), as they look goofy with their giant gap which should be filled by the spring package. Ben Hom |
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Richard Remiarz
Ben,
I agree with you and only used the trucks as a last result. I couldn’t find anything else that matched the 50 ton early roller bearing trucks that were on the prototype cars. I will get some more springs and double them up to at least have the coils look fuller.
Unfortunately we don’t have a good reference like Richard Hendrickson’s for roller bearing trucks.
Sincerely, Rich Remiarz
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From: Benjamin Hom
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2023 8:20 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GN 2527
Rich Remiarz wrote: "The trucks have real springs, which have a habit of jumping out if the truck twists, which it did several times while building the car. A couple of springs went flying on my workbench, and haven’t been found yet. I had to open a second package of the trucks, and decided it was easier to swap trucks than take replacement springs out of the second package of trucks."
The easy way around this is to just say no to sprung trucks (if there is a quality non-sprung option), as they look goofy with their giant gap which should be filled by the spring package.
Ben Hom
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John Monrad
Would Tangent's #464 '50-ton ASF A-3 Ride Control Roller Bearing w/ Rotating "Timken" Caps' work for that car? John Monrad On Wed, Feb 1, 2023, 9:28 AM Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:
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Richard Remiarz
No they won’t work without a lot of rework. The early roller bearing trucks used on these cars didn’t have rotating caps. There were covers over the roller bearings instead. I attached a photo of one of these trucks. The sprung trucks are the only trucks I am aware of with covers over the roller bearings.
Rich Remiarz
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Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2023 8:47 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GN 2527
Would Tangent's #464 '50-ton ASF A-3 Ride Control Roller Bearing w/ Rotating "Timken" Caps' work for that car?
John Monrad
On Wed, Feb 1, 2023, 9:28 AM Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:
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John Monrad
The number of coils exposed on the EB trucks is about the same as on the prototype trucks. I think simply painting the coils on the EB trucks would suffice. John Monrad On Wed, Feb 1, 2023, 9:58 AM Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:
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