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inexpensive kit-bash


Chuck Cover
 

Group,

 

I purchased an old Walthers gondola kit at the PRRT&HS for a dollar back in 2019.  I was not sure what I would do with it, but it was a bargain.  One of my operators had some Shapeways spiral gondola ends made and he gave a set to me.   I wondered if I could use them, so I did a little research.  I found a Monon gondola that I though fit the bill.  Not much to describe here, I built the kit substituting the Shapeways ends and adding some details such as some standard underbody brake and end details.  The decals are from Tichy.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


O Fenton Wells
 

Chuck, Great touch with an unusual bash.  Well Done
Fenton

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 6:44 PM Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:

Group,

 

I purchased an old Walthers gondola kit at the PRRT&HS for a dollar back in 2019.  I was not sure what I would do with it, but it was a bargain.  One of my operators had some Shapeways spiral gondola ends made and he gave a set to me.   I wondered if I could use them, so I did a little research.  I found a Monon gondola that I though fit the bill.  Not much to describe here, I built the kit substituting the Shapeways ends and adding some details such as some standard underbody brake and end details.  The decals are from Tichy.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM



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Fenton Wells
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Eric Hansmann
 

Looking good, Chuck! Another modeler has used the same car end print on an Intermountain USRA gon. 

I think your model was originally a Proto1000 release. Finding it for $1 is pretty lucky!


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Aug 10, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:

Group,

 

I purchased an old Walthers gondola kit at the PRRT&HS for a dollar back in 2019.  I was not sure what I would do with it, but it was a bargain.  One of my operators had some Shapeways spiral gondola ends made and he gave a set to me.   I wondered if I could use them, so I did a little research.  I found a Monon gondola that I though fit the bill.  Not much to describe here, I built the kit substituting the Shapeways ends and adding some details such as some standard underbody brake and end details.  The decals are from Tichy.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM

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John Barry
 

Nice job Chuck. 

Thank you for the end view on the prototype.  I too have a couple pairs of the spiral ends that I intend to modify the Intermountain car.  We discussed these Monon cars a couple years ago.

John

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


On Monday, August 10, 2020, 06:44:27 PM EDT, Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:


Group,

 

I purchased an old Walthers gondola kit at the PRRT&HS for a dollar back in 2019.  I was not sure what I would do with it, but it was a bargain.  One of my operators had some Shapeways spiral gondola ends made and he gave a set to me.   I wondered if I could use them, so I did a little research.  I found a Monon gondola that I though fit the bill.  Not much to describe here, I built the kit substituting the Shapeways ends and adding some details such as some standard underbody brake and end details.  The decals are from Tichy.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Mont Switzer
 

John,

 

Chad Boas told me Shapeways offers the ends in their line.  Should be a drop in replacement.

 

Mont

 

Montford L. Switzer

President

Switzer Tank Lines, Inc.

Fall Creek Leasing, LLC.

mswitzer@...

(765) 836-2914

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Barry
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 10:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] inexpensive kit-bash

 

Nice job Chuck. 

 

Thank you for the end view on the prototype.  I too have a couple pairs of the spiral ends that I intend to modify the Intermountain car.  We discussed these Monon cars a couple years ago.

 

John

 

John Barry

 

ATSF North Bay Lines 

Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

Lovettsville, VA

 

707-490-9696 

 

PO Box 44736 

Washington, DC 20026-4736

 

 

On Monday, August 10, 2020, 06:44:27 PM EDT, Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:

 

 

Group,

 

I purchased an old Walthers gondola kit at the PRRT&HS for a dollar back in 2019.  I was not sure what I would do with it, but it was a bargain.  One of my operators had some Shapeways spiral gondola ends made and he gave a set to me.   I wondered if I could use them, so I did a little research.  I found a Monon gondola that I though fit the bill.  Not much to describe here, I built the kit substituting the Shapeways ends and adding some details such as some standard underbody brake and end details.  The decals are from Tichy.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Michael Gross
 

Very nice, Chuck!
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Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


James Brewer
 

Nice car Chuck!  How were the Tichy decals to work with?

Jim Brewer


Rene LaVoise
 

I recently finished the same kitbash using the an undec IM USRA gon as the starting point. The spiral ends available from Shapeways are a drop in replacement of the kits ends. Very easy conversion.

The car is waiting its trip through the paint shop and now have a question on what color would be correct for the late 1920s, Freight Car Red or Black?

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René LaVoise
Kirkwood, MO


Paul Doggett
 

That’s an unusual cars Chuck it looks really good.
Paul Doggett   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 11 Aug 2020, at 15:25, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

Very nice, Chuck!
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Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Chuck Cover
 

Group:  Thanks for all the positive comments.

 

Jim Brewer asked:  How were the Tichy decals to work with?

 

I know that Tichy decals have been discussed previously on this list and some have said that they are too thick and hard to work with.  However, I have used Tichy decals for a number of projects when the kit does not come with decals or I want to letter for a different road.  I have found them to be easy to work with and they look fine to me on the finished models.  I use the same process as with other decal products.  Attached are a few photos of models for which I used Tichy decals.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Mont Switzer
 

Rene,

 

As far as I know those cars were painted freight car red like the old Floquil Boxcar Red.

 

It appears that a few cars were rebuilt after WWII for on-line quarry to mill service.  Those cars appear to be black.

 

Roster notes indicate all of these cars were off of the revenue roster by the end of 1949.

 

Mont

 

Montford L. Switzer

President

Switzer Tank Lines, Inc.

Fall Creek Leasing, LLC.

mswitzer@...

(765) 836-2914

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rene LaVoise
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 10:47 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] inexpensive kit-bash

 

I recently finished the same kitbash using the an undec IM USRA gon as the starting point. The spiral ends available from Shapeways are a drop in replacement of the kits ends. Very easy conversion.

The car is waiting its trip through the paint shop and now have a question on what color would be correct for the late 1920s, Freight Car Red or Black?

--
René LaVoise
Kirkwood, MO


Bob Chapman
 

Chuck --

Nice work, and brings back a modeling memory. Several years ago at Naperville, Chad Boas offered these spiral dreadnaught ends for sale, and I couldn't pass them up. The carbody is InterMountain (for considerably more than Chuck's dollar!), with the result attached.  

Monon had some fun rolling stock....

Regards,
Bob Chapman


Tony Thompson
 

Chuck Cover wrote:

I know that Tichy decals have been discussed previously on this list and some have said that they are too thick and hard to work with.  However, I have used Tichy decals for a number of projects when the kit does not come with decals or I want to letter for a different road.  I have found them to be easy to work with and they look fine to me on the finished models.  I use the same process as with other decal products.  

   I would agree, Chuck. I have not found them objectionable, though I would prefer not to have the (minimal) 3-D aspect.

Tony Thompson




Dennis Storzek
 

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:16 AM, Robert Chapman wrote:
Several years ago at Naperville, Chad Boas offered these spiral dreadnaught ends for sale
These are most definitely NOT Dreadnaught, and have no association with the Standard Railway Equipment Co., owner of the Dreadnaught name. Near as I can tell this was a proprietary design developed by car builder Haskell & Barker. I base this on the fact that all three groups of cars known to have these ends were built by H&B, and the fact that there are detail drawings in the H&B files now at the Pullman Library beyond what was typical for vendor supplied ends.

Dennis Storzek


Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Chuck and Jim,
 
I'm glad this topic was raised and discussed a little.
 
In N scale, we have far fewer decal options available than HO. AFAIK the entire Tichy decal line is available in N, so this makes them a significant pool to draw upon for my future projects.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] inexpensive kit-bash

Group:  Thanks for all the positive comments.

 

Jim Brewer asked:  How were the Tichy decals to work with?

 

I know that Tichy decals have been discussed previously on this list and some have said that they are too thick and hard to work with.  However, I have used Tichy decals for a number of projects when the kit does not come with decals or I want to letter for a different road.  I have found them to be easy to work with and they look fine to me on the finished models.  I use the same process as with other decal products.  Attached are a few photos of models for which I used Tichy decals.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


James Brewer
 

Chuck,

Thanks for the feed back; much appreciated.

Jim Brewer


rdietrichson
 



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From: "Rene LaVoise"
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday August 11 2020 10:47:18AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] inexpensive kit-bash

I recently finished the same kitbash using the an undec IM USRA gon as the starting point. The spiral ends available from Shapeways are a drop in replacement of the kits ends. Very easy conversion.

The car is waiting its trip through the paint shop and now have a question on what color would be correct for the late 1920s, Freight Car Red or Black?

--
René LaVoise
Kirkwood, MO