M&StL 30000 series gondola kit under development
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Richard Remiarz
Joe Binish asked me to forward this to the list. He is having some technical issues.
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Look forward to seeing this. The MSTL purchased 250 of these gons in 1947. They were a 41’ car with an inward slope at the bottom of the sides. The last one was disposed of in 1971. One unique feature was the use of a Superior hand brake.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 8:58 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Stmfc List Subject: [RealSTMFC] M&StL 30000 series gondola kit under development
Joe Binish asked me to forward this to the list. He is having some technical issues.
Sincerely, Rich Remiarz
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Doug Harding wrote:
One unique feature was the use of a Superior hand brake. The hand brake of choice for the M&StL Dan Smith
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Bill Welch
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 09:58 PM, Richard Remiarz wrote:
Joe Binish asked me to forward this to the list. He is having some technical issues.This is good news, great to see new people developing models. Speaking of gondolas, according the the Lisle/Chicagoland RPM, Steve Furnaro will do a presentation on building a Monon gondola, which means he must be introducing this kit next week as I have not seen it on there website. Bill Welch
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Clark Propst
Joe is also interested in obtaining photos of cars repainted by the CNW.
CW Propst
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I'll send Joe what I have. Doug Harding Sent from my phone
On Oct 15, 2019 11:16 AM, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote: Joe is also interested in obtaining photos of cars repainted by the CNW.
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Was this style of GS gondola also built for other owners? It looks very familiar. Great Northern perhaps? Tim O'Connor
On 10/15/2019 12:13 AM, Dan Smith wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Joseph
Don’t think so as the M&StL car is welded Joe Binish
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 3:02 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Didn’t the DRGW have similar 41’ cars?
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Don’t think so as the M&StL car is welded Joe Binish
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 3:02 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Dennis Storzek
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 01:15 PM, Joseph wrote:
Don’t think so as the M&StL car is weldedI'm going to have to check pix of Soo Line cars; they built some all weld nominal 40 footers in their own shops in '48 or '49 that had the angled bottom of the side sheets. Dennis Storzek
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bingo!
On 10/15/2019 6:34 PM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Dennis Storzek
Thanks Tim, I don't have a pic I can post. It does appear to be the same design car, the spotting feature being the little pressed flange on the bottom edge of the stub side sills. There is a builders photo in the SLH&TS freightcars book, the car posed with the drop doors open, and it is evident that the doors are Dreadnaught pressings. The car also has what appears to be either Superior or Equipco hand brake. Tim's posted image is of a sixties/seventies era repaint; The original lettering is similar in arrangement, but a Roman typeface, with lines above and below the reporting marks. There were two number series; 8001-8199 (odd), and WC cars 67001-67199 (odd).
Question, do the Minni cars have improved Dreadnaught ends? They seem to have been built one to two years before the Soo cars. Likewise the Dreadnaught drop doors? Dennis Storzek
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Doug and list,
Similar, sort of, but built in the 20's. A 3D printed kit is available for these. 42' https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-Scale-3D-Printed-D-RGW-Offset-GS-Gondola-42ft-45k-Series-Single-Kit/232442939371?hash=item361eadc7eb:g:JJoAAOSw~y9ZCP49 Seller makes 2 other versions Teens built 40' https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-Scale-3D-Print-D-RGW-GS-Gondola-40ft-43k-Series-Late-Single-Kit-Grabs/233136976281?hash=item36480bf199:g:v8EAAOSw7lNcacFO 20's built 46' https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-Scale-3D-Print-D-RGW-Offset-GS-Gondola-46ft-70k-Series-Blank-Single-Kit/232687325651?hash=item362d3ed1d3:g:Dw4AAOSwnTxanI5z Dan Smith
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Attached are builder photos of the MSTL gon, a diagram drawing, and a photo of one of these gons in CNW MOW paint. I have a photo of one of these gons in MOW service dated 1983. I have sent all photos to Joe Binish.
I have been wanting a model of this car. I have the DA steel sided gon kit, which has the slope sides at the bottom of the ca. But as has been pointed out it is based upon an SP car, and not 100% accurate for the MSTL.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
Thanks Tim, I don't have a pic I can post. It does appear to be the same design car, the spotting feature being the little pressed flange on the bottom edge of the stub side sills. There is a builders photo in the SLH&TS freightcars book, the car posed with the drop doors open, and it is evident that the doors are Dreadnaught pressings. The car also has what appears to be either Superior or Equipco hand brake. Tim's posted image is of a sixties/seventies era repaint; The original lettering is similar in arrangement, but a Roman typeface, with lines above and below the reporting marks. There were two number series; 8001-8199 (odd), and WC cars 67001-67199 (odd).
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Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Tim,
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Western Pacific had some GA gondolas like this, but with a 46' IL and a bit higher sides. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
On 10/15/2019 4:02 PM, Tim O'Connor
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