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Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Tony,

I don't think so, at least not easily. It would involve cutting out alternate boards across the end, less the end braces. You would probably spend less effort building Al's kit. [Which reminds me, I've got to put mine together someday. :-[ ]

Are there other differences between the SP S-40-5 and the S-40-8? The WP cars were a supposed to be a clone of the latter class.

Kind regards,


Garth G. Groff

Anthony Thompson wrote:

Garth Groff wrote:

You mention the SP/WP stock cars, and I gather that you are speaking of the styrene Red Caboose models and not Westerfield's resin kits. In point of fact, there is NO WP stock car from RC. The ends are solid wood, and the WP cars had open slatted upper ends. I have passed on the RC car for just that reason (also because of the absurd price). The car is an SP S-40-5 and nothing else.
Garth, is the model fixable for WP? open up some slots, etc.? I haven't looked at it with that in mind.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Garth Groff wrote:
I don't think so, at least not easily. It would involve cutting out alternate boards across the end, less the end braces. You would probably spend less effort building Al's kit. [Which reminds me, I've got to put mine together someday. :-[ ]

Are there other differences between the SP S-40-5 and the S-40-8? The WP cars were a supposed to be a clone of the latter class.
Extremely similar cars except for the narrow slots between boards on the ends. These are NOT alternate boards, but look like kind of quarter-board widths. I would just cut some slots, but as you say, with the bracing it's not an easy job. An approximation could be made by wide grooves which you fill with black.
Don't know about WP trucks, but on the SP cars, the S-40-5 had Vulcan trucks, the S-40-8 T-section trucks. Thats' the other distinctive feature, along with the ends.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history
SUVCWORR@...
 

Armand,

I would suggest including the NYC USRA clones,

Rich Orr

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Gang,I kind of suspected that there would be a regional influence for
nominees.While offset hoppers seem to dominate the interest of eastern
aficionados ,there are still many other types of hoppers that are totally
missing from the scene.I will attempt to collate the choices and put it to a
vote.While hoppers seem to be of only marginal interest to western prototype
modelers some other cars appear to have a more uniform appeal.Armand Premo

Subject: [STMFC] Re: Missing links


Tony, a big ditto here!

I dearly would like to have several prewar SP flat cars. Good
examples would be something like the F-50-9 and F-50-13 which
were very distinct from each other and both classes lasted past
1960. SP used to run long cuts of empty flat cars back to Oregon.
I've seen it in photos and even in Hollywood movies!

Tim O'Connor

>3. I make it no. 3 only out of humility: the Harriman flat car with
>straight side sills, either the 40-foot or 50-foot version (if we had
>forties, we could kitbash the fifty-footers).
>
>Tony Thompson






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Greg Martin
 

Guys,


A possible candidate for consideration is the post-war rebuilt boxcars that came from the RR's rebuilding with an ARR box on a earlier underframes. Certainly we know that the ATSF, KCS,PRR, WABASH and the ACL did this and I am sure others are well. It would require tooling for a variety of underframes, roofs and ends, but the "box" remained the same. (yes, I realize the ACL cars were only 10'-3" IH, but my eyes can't measure 3 scale inches without a micrometer). Once the tooling was complete the idea would be to mix and match the possible ends, roofs and underframes to cover as many roads as one could. The PRR had two classes as well as the ACL and I am not an ATSF expert, but I believe there was more than one. The Wabash and the DT&I had cars that mirrored the PRR X26c as well. The PRR continued the practice well into the 1950s like the ACL, being frugal was the name of the game at the time. If you include double door cars the list grows. The trucks were recycled (the re-use of Andrews trucks by some) as well. It would take research and forethought before one jumped in, but it does open many doors for sales to prototype modelers.

Greg Martin

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Sent: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 11:03 am
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Gang,I kind of suspected that there would be a regional influence for nominees.While offset hoppers seem to dominate the interest of eastern aficionados ,there are still many other types of hoppers that are totally missing from the scene.I will attempt to collate the choices and put it to a vote.While hoppers seem to be of only marginal interest to western prototype modelers some other cars appear to have a more uniform appeal.Armand Premo





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SUVCWORR@...
 

Greg,

If you are going to have interchangeable floors, then aren't the PRR X26c and the X29b the same body? The only difference I can see on elevation drawings is a 1 inch longer running board on the X26c. The under frames are different and difference in the truck spacing is readily apparent. Between the 2 classes there were roughly 8,000 cars which lasted well beyond the time frame of this list.

Rich Orr

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Sent: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 6:58 pm
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Guys,


A possible candidate for consideration is the post-war rebuilt boxcars that came
from the RR's rebuilding with an ARR box on a earlier underframes. Certainly we
know that the ATSF, KCS,PRR, WABASH and the ACL did this and I am sure others
are well. It would require tooling for a variety of underframes, roofs and ends,
but the "box" remained the same. (yes, I realize the ACL cars were only 10'-3"
IH, but my eyes can't measure 3 scale inches without a micrometer). Once the
tooling was complete the idea would be to mix and match the possible ends, roofs
and underframes to cover as many roads as one could. The PRR had two classes as
well as the ACL and I am not an ATSF expert, but I believe there was more than
one. The Wabash and the DT&I had cars that mirrored the PRR X26c as well. The
PRR continued the practice well into the 1950s like the ACL, being frugal was
the name of the game at the time. If you include double door cars the list
grows. The trucks were recycled (the re-use of Andrews trucks by some) as well.
It would take research and forethought before one jumped in, but it does open
many doors for sales to prototype modelers.

Greg Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: Armand Premo <armprem2@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Missing links






Gang,I kind of suspected that there would be a regional influence for
nominees.While offset hoppers seem to dominate the interest of eastern
aficionados ,there are still many other types of hoppers that are totally
missing from the scene.I will attempt to collate the choices and put it to a
vote.While hoppers seem to be of only marginal interest to western prototype
modelers some other cars appear to have a more uniform appeal.Armand Premo





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Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Tony,

Last night I looked at one of the few photos I've seen of the WP stock cars, found in Jim Eager's WESTERN PACIFIC COLOR GUIDE TO FREIGHT AND PASSENGER EQUIPMENT. The WP cars did indeed have narrow gaps between the sheathing boards on the ends. IIRC, they coincide the lowest coincide with the gaps between the boards on the sides. There were four gaps across the ends near the top. These were partly covered by the steel diagonal bracing, making some of the openings between the braces very small indeed. To cut these into the RC ends would be a major chore.

The trucks on the car in question appear to be somewhat like an Andrews truck, with a reenforcement piece between the journal box and the truss at spring level. I don't see that the reenforcements are bolted in place, but seem part of the sideframe casting. Are these actually Vulcan trucks?

The WP cars also had a large name board along the eave to the left of the doors. The RC car has a different arrangement, with letterboards set lower per SP practice. Adding the high board would be easy to do with styrene, assuming the SP boards are separate pieces.

Kind regards,


Garth G. Groff

Anthony Thompson wrote:

Garth Groff wrote:

I don't think so, at least not easily. It would involve cutting out alternate boards across the end, less the end braces. You would probably spend less effort building Al's kit. [Which reminds me, I've got to put mine together someday. :-[ ]

Are there other differences between the SP S-40-5 and the S-40-8? The WP cars were a supposed to be a clone of the latter class.
Extremely similar cars except for the narrow slots between boards on the ends. These are NOT alternate boards, but look like kind of quarter-board widths. I would just cut some slots, but as you say, with the bracing it's not an easy job. An approximation could be made by wide grooves which you fill with black.
Don't know about WP trucks, but on the SP cars, the S-40-5 had Vulcan trucks, the S-40-8 T-section trucks. Thats' the other distinctive feature, along with the ends.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
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Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Rich and Greg are right; the PRR and other roads' rebuilds of earlier cars
remain a very large group of cars that would be ideal for a hybrid modeling
approach, if some manufacturer would take the bait.

The X26C had widened and heightened Murphy ends, plus a rectangular panel
roof, for all but the last 500 cars, plus either Superior or pre-War Y-town
doors, again, for all but the last 500 cars. The X29B had diagonal panel
roofs, post-War Y-town doors, and the rolling pin IDE. Both had 7' doors.

However, since all the PRR rebuilds, as well as a number of the rebuilds done
by ATSF, Wabash, EJ&E, NKP and others, had IH of 10'6", and both roof and
ends are separate parts, the only issue as far as producing one body good for
everything is the presence or absence of side sill tabs, and their
configuration. The Branchline cars are pretty much ideal for most purposes,
then, as they have all of the characteristics that allow them to be easily
modified. The only thing missing is those special ends and side
sill/underframe arrangements unique to the particular roads that assembled
them.

Plastic car manufacturers are not comforted by any of this, though, as I have
heard, as they really are looking for multiple-road options that require
little to no variation in the car body.

The method of taking a BL body kit and mating it with resin parts suitable
for a particular road's car has been done by Sunshine in their Uni-body
series, but as I understand it, could not be continued due to the issue of
having to buy large numbers of kits for a speculative future market.

The concept still works for many of us, however, who don't want to be put off
by the unavailability of these cars!

Elden Gatwood


Greg,

If you are going to have interchangeable floors, then aren't the PRR X26c and
the X29b the same body? The only difference I can see on elevation drawings
is a 1 inch longer running board on the X26c. The under frames are different
and difference in the truck spacing is readily apparent. Between the 2
classes there were roughly 8,000 cars which lasted well beyond the time frame
of this list.

Rich Orr

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Sent: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Missing links

Guys,

A possible candidate for consideration is the post-war rebuilt boxcars that
came from the RR's rebuilding with an ARR box on a earlier underframes.
Certainly we know that the ATSF, KCS,PRR, WABASH and the ACL did this and I
am sure others are well. It would require tooling for a variety of
underframes, roofs and ends, but the "box" remained the same. (yes, I realize
the ACL cars were only 10'-3"
IH, but my eyes can't measure 3 scale inches without a micrometer). Once the
tooling was complete the idea would be to mix and match the possible ends,
roofs and underframes to cover as many roads as one could. The PRR had two
classes as well as the ACL and I am not an ATSF expert, but I believe there
was more than one. The Wabash and the DT&I had cars that mirrored the PRR
X26c as well. The PRR continued the practice well into the 1950s like the
ACL, being frugal was the name of the game at the time. If you include double
door cars the list grows. The trucks were recycled (the re-use of Andrews
trucks by some) as well.
It would take research and forethought before one jumped in, but it does open
many doors for sales to prototype modelers.

Greg Martin

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To: STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Missing links

Gang,I kind of suspected that there would be a regional influence for
nominees.While offset hoppers seem to dominate the interest of eastern
aficionados ,there are still many other types of hoppers that are totally
missing from the scene.I will attempt to collate the choices and put it to a
vote.While hoppers seem to be of only marginal interest to western prototype
modelers some other cars appear to have a more uniform appeal.Armand Premo

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Richard Hendrickson
 

On Oct 23, 2009, at 4:27 AM, Garth G. Groff wrote:

Last night I looked at one of the few photos I've seen of the WP stock
cars, found in Jim Eager's WESTERN PACIFIC COLOR GUIDE TO FREIGHT AND
PASSENGER EQUIPMENT. The WP cars did indeed have narrow gaps between the
sheathing boards on the ends. IIRC, they coincide the lowest coincide
with the gaps between the boards on the sides. There were four gaps
across the ends near the top. These were partly covered by the steel
diagonal bracing, making some of the openings between the braces very
small indeed. To cut these into the RC ends would be a major chore.
Though I haven't had time to try it, it seems to me that the four gaps at the top of the end sheathing shouldn't be all that hard to simulate, unless you insist on cutting them all the way through the end. BTW, I have several b/w photos of these cars and can send you scans off-list.

The trucks on the car in question appear to be somewhat like an Andrews
truck, with a reenforcement piece between the journal box and the truss
at spring level. I don't see that the reenforcements are bolted in
place, but seem part of the sideframe casting. Are these actually Vulcan
trucks?
The trucks were, in fact, common Andrews U-section. Ironically, RC supplied trucks on the SP models which are very close to accurate for the WP cars but wrong on the SP cars (which had Vulcans), and then shipped the WP models with ARA trucks. Go figure.

The WP cars also had a large name board along the eave to the left of
the doors. The RC car has a different arrangement, with letterboards set
lower per SP practice. Adding the high board would be easy to do with
styrene, assuming the SP boards are separate pieces.
The RC models of the WP cars have correct WP letter boards.

Richard Hendrickson
Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

This sounds like a reason for Martin to expand AND CATALOG more mini-kits.
In many cases he could also dispense with decals resulting in a minimum
investment for Sunshine. A few resin parts, a one page PDS/instruction
sheet, a plastic bag and a tag. Presto - he's offering the same type of
product available to armor & aircraft modelers. I'm going to mention it to
Martin at Naperville. All you other Napervillers should too.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com

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The method of taking a BL body kit and mating it with resin parts suitable
for a particular road's car has been done by Sunshine in their Uni-body
series, but as I understand it, could not be continued due to the issue of
having to buy large numbers of kits for a speculative future market.

Elden Gatwood
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks, Jim! That is a great idea, and if you would, when it gets to the
point of discussing WHAT cars, we should take a poll and be prepared to then
discuss:

A) how many

B) what road(s)

C) what timeframe

D) what details would need to be created...

E) to mate with what kit

F) decal availability (they won't sell otherwise)

G) research and photo availability

What do you think?

Elden Gatwood

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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Jim &
Lisa Hayes
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:07 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Missing links



This sounds like a reason for Martin to expand AND CATALOG more mini-kits.
In many cases he could also dispense with decals resulting in a minimum
investment for Sunshine. A few resin parts, a one page PDS/instruction sheet,
a plastic bag and a tag. Presto - he's offering the same type of product
available to armor & aircraft modelers. I'm going to mention it to Martin at
Naperville. All you other Napervillers should too.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com

--------------------------------
The method of taking a BL body kit and mating it with resin parts suitable
for a particular road's car has been done by Sunshine in their Uni-body
series, but as I understand it, could not be continued due to the issue of
having to buy large numbers of kits for a speculative future market.

Elden Gatwood
Armand Premo
 

Elden,While there are many "missing links" some of the nominees are relatively rare or are examples of regional bias.I was hoping,as a group, we could come up with a list of cars represented by either large numbers or with more universal appeal..Armand Premo.

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From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Missing links


Thanks, Jim! That is a great idea, and if you would, when it gets to the
point of discussing WHAT cars, we should take a poll and be prepared to then
discuss:

A) how many

B) what road(s)

C) what timeframe

D) what details would need to be created...

E) to mate with what kit

F) decal availability (they won't sell otherwise)

G) research and photo availability

What do you think?

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Jim &
Lisa Hayes
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:07 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Missing links

This sounds like a reason for Martin to expand AND CATALOG more mini-kits.
In many cases he could also dispense with decals resulting in a minimum
investment for Sunshine. A few resin parts, a one page PDS/instruction sheet,
a plastic bag and a tag. Presto - he's offering the same type of product
available to armor & aircraft modelers. I'm going to mention it to Martin at
Naperville. All you other Napervillers should too.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com

--------------------------------
The method of taking a BL body kit and mating it with resin parts suitable
for a particular road's car has been done by Sunshine in their Uni-body
series, but as I understand it, could not be continued due to the issue of
having to buy large numbers of kits for a speculative future market.

Elden Gatwood






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Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

Eldon, if we get a positive response from Martin, developing a list of
suggestions for Mini-Kits to do is a good idea. In addition to what we want,
we should also include a contact person for each suggestion.

A place to start might be looking at Sunshine discontinued kits. If we could
suggest something that would include parts from an existing mold to be used
with an existing plastic kit, we might be one step closer. After all, some
Mini-Kits are the old Unibody kits without the C&BT body.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com

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Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:42 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Missing links

Thanks, Jim! That is a great idea, and if you would, when it gets to the
point of discussing WHAT cars, we should take a poll and be prepared to then
discuss:

A) how many

B) what road(s)

C) what timeframe

D) what details would need to be created...

E) to mate with what kit

F) decal availability (they won't sell otherwise)

G) research and photo availability

What do you think?

Elden Gatwood
David Sieber
 

Jim,

Agree; I'd love to see Sunshine Mini-Kits of their old Uni-Body offerings, and others as well. Beyond modification kits for BL or IM 10ft6in IH cars, they could also consider mod kits for IMWX/RC & IM 10ft IH ARR boxcars.

However, it's not unlikely that Martin would hesitate to scale down on these cars since he's already invested in masters, castings, et al, to issue many of them as full kits at full price. See 64.20-22 for PRR X29c & 64.35-35 for 29b; 64.23-34 for ATSF Bx-32,33,36 & 64.37-48 for Bx-28,31; 64.52-53 for Wabash; 64.75-77 for T&P 81000s; and 64.78-83 for A&WP, WofA, and GA - at least these, if not any other 10ft to 10ft6in IH 10-panel side boxcars I may have missed.

Additionally, for example, rather than full kits for the 1937 ARR oddities in 18.1-3, they could package just ends, roofs, doors and decals for the Erie 78000s (and the Naval Powder Factory cars) with Buckeye ends and Viking roofs, and for the C&O 5400s with Deco ends, Viking roofs, and Creco doors - plus expand to the rest of the C&O 4000-5400s with Viking roofs, but different ends and doors.

By issuing more cars as Mini-Kits, Sunshine could use decals already bought and on-hand, but cast only the unique parts instead of the entire car kit. Question is, would this make economic sense to the Loftons, given their investments so far in the full kits?

Submitted for your consideration,
Dave Sieber
Reno NV

--- In STMFC@..., "Jim & Lisa Hayes" <jimandlisa97225@...> wrote:

This sounds like a reason for Martin to expand AND CATALOG more mini-kits.
In many cases he could also dispense with decals resulting in a minimum
investment for Sunshine. A few resin parts, a one page PDS/instruction
sheet, a plastic bag and a tag. Presto - he's offering the same type of
product available to armor & aircraft modelers. I'm going to mention it to
Martin at Naperville. All you other Napervillers should too.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com

--------------------------------
The method of taking a BL body kit and mating it with resin parts suitable
for a particular road's car has been done by Sunshine in their Uni-body
series, but as I understand it, could not be continued due to the issue of
having to buy large numbers of kits for a speculative future market.

Elden Gatwood
Tim O'Connor
 

Armand

No one has done a mass production RTR USRA single sheathed box car.
Not that I think they should, but it's strange no one has done it.

A ridiculously desperately needed high quality car is the PRR X31
round roof cars. And the X32 as well. You know, something to go
with all those excellent Red Cabosoe X29's.

A good candidate for a one railroad car would be the SLSF single
sheathed cars, including the cars with replacement steel sheathing.
Those cars got around the country and lasted into the 1970's.

I gave up lobbying for the 1950's PC&F 40 foot plug door reefers.
No one seems interested in the later 1950's... but if anyone does
do it PLEASE do the ends correctly (no one ever has in plastic, resin
or brass) and make them available as separate parts (I need at least
20 pairs of replacement ends)

Tim O'Connor

At 10/23/2009 03:10 PM Friday, you wrote:
Elden,While there are many "missing links" some of the nominees are relatively rare or are examples of regional bias.I was hoping,as a group, we could come up with a list of cars represented by either large numbers or with more universal appeal..Armand Premo.
edwardloizeaux
 

No one has done a mass production RTR USRA single sheathed box car.
Tim O'Connor
There is one here in many different paint schemes:

http://www.showcaseline.com/
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
No one has done a mass production RTR USRA single sheathed box car. Not that I think they should, but it's strange no one has done it.
An awful lot of the original USRA single-sheathed cars were rebuilt by WW II, and the market for pre-war cars is less than for postwar cars. InterMountain has assembled the Tichy reefers for RTR sale, so they could presumably do the USRA box too, but maybe they doubt the market. That leaves the rebuildsk, and again there are Tichy parts which could be assembled for RTR. But here, the problem is the variety from road to road. That's why the rebuilds are good resin candidates.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history
mcindoefalls
 

--- In STMFC@..., Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

InterMountain has assembled the Tichy reefers for RTR
sale, so they could presumably do the USRA box too, but maybe they
doubt the market.
At the bottom of this page:

http://www.imrcmodels.com/ho/hoboxcars.htm

IM shows assembled Tichy USRA SS boxcars.

Walt Lankenau
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Walt Lankenau wrote:
At the bottom of this page:

http://www.imrcmodels.com/ho/hoboxcars.htm

IM shows assembled Tichy USRA SS boxcars.
You're right, Walt. Thanks. I had missed that they'd done these.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history
Tim O'Connor
 

Yes and Westerfield makes 'em too. What I really meant was there
is no "mass production" model i.e. a shake the box style car that
sells for 10 bucks.

Tim O'Connor

InterMountain has assembled the Tichy reefers for RTR
sale, so they could presumably do the USRA box too, but maybe they
doubt the market.
At the bottom of this page:

http://www.imrcmodels.com/ho/hoboxcars.htm

IM shows assembled Tichy USRA SS boxcars.

Walt Lankenau
Tim O'Connor
 

Right. Sorry, my fault for being HO-centric.

At 10/23/2009 08:18 PM Friday, you wrote:
No one has done a mass production RTR USRA single sheathed box car.
Tim O'Connor
There is one here in many different paint schemes:

http://www.showcaseline.com/
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