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Could someone explain why the bottom 2/3 of the stock cars was gray and the top 1/3 red? If this was lime or something similar used as a disinfectant, should we be doing something similar on stock cars of other roads?

Hey, I'm a city guy. :)

Alex Schneider

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On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 11:48 AM, Steven D Johnson
<tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:

Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778

Other slides with freight car views from this seller:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512528114?hash=item2b316888f2:g:ZasAAOSwUnBi2HPG

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512517049?hash=item2b31685db9:g:v3UAAOSwlrti2GN~

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512525866?hash=item2b3168802a:g:LCsAAOSwtNti2DGI

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512516284?hash=item2b31685abc:g:rvYAAOSwRLxi2GYN

Looks to be from the early 1960s or so, but still a lot of steam era freight cars:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362124428?hash=item28d465aa8c:g:VRsAAOSwr8pi2Xx7

I have no connection with the seller. Just happened upon these and wanted to share.

Steve Johnson

Patrick Wade

#194482

I am guessing that the gray better hides the cleanout of the manure and such. Red would become discolored quicker. As I remember, NYC had a similar color scheme.

Pat Wade

Santa Barbara, CA

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On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 12:03 PM Alexander Schneider Jr <aschneiderjr@...> wrote:

Could someone explain why the bottom 2/3 of the stock cars was gray and the top 1/3 red? If this was lime or something similar used as a disinfectant, should we be doing something similar on stock cars of other roads?

Hey, I'm a city guy. :)

Alex Schneider

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 11:48 AM, Steven D Johnson
<tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:

Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778

Other slides with freight car views from this seller:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512528114?hash=item2b316888f2:g:ZasAAOSwUnBi2HPG

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512517049?hash=item2b31685db9:g:v3UAAOSwlrti2GN~

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512525866?hash=item2b3168802a:g:LCsAAOSwtNti2DGI

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512516284?hash=item2b31685abc:g:rvYAAOSwRLxi2GYN

Looks to be from the early 1960s or so, but still a lot of steam era freight cars:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362124428?hash=item28d465aa8c:g:VRsAAOSwr8pi2Xx7

I have no connection with the seller. Just happened upon these and wanted to share.

Steve Johnson

Dennis Storzek

#194486

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 02:03 PM, Alexander Schneider Jr wrote:

Could someone explain why the bottom 2/3 of the stock cars was gray and the top 1/3 red? If this was lime or something similar used as a disinfectant, should we be doing something similar on stock cars of other roads?

Not unless the prototype painted them white as the Canadian roads did. The law in Canada was stock cars were to be disinfected with lime, and the white paint hid the lime stains, or so I've been told.

Dennis Storzek

John Riddell

#194490

It was standard practice for CN and CP stock cars to have the bottom of their sides painted an off-white to somewhat mask the white lime sprayed regularly to disinfect the cars. The white paint made the cars look less messy with lime spray.

John Riddell

Tim O'Connor

#194527

Wow I had no idea there were so many Canadian rail fans in one place!

On 7/31/2022 12:48 PM, Steven D Johnson wrote:

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Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Robert kirkham

#194528

ha!. From what I have heard, some were there to see the carrier and some to see the sailors.

I worked in that yard during my schooling - no one seemed much interested in what was going on down at track level.

Rob

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On Aug 1, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Wow I had no idea there were so many Canadian rail fans in one place!

On 7/31/2022 12:48 PM, Steven D Johnson wrote:

Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

hockenheim68

#194547

If that is the Coral Sea then it was March '60 for those dating the scene/ state of equipment. It may have said that in the description but the slide is no longer available. My dad remembers going aboard.

Tim O'Connor

#194558

where exactly is "Munshaw" ??

On 8/1/2022 4:43 PM, hockenheim68 via groups.io wrote:

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If that is the Coral Sea then it was March '60 for those dating the scene/ state of equipment. It may have said that in the description but the slide is no longer available. My dad remembers going aboard.

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Bob Thompson

#194563

Mortifee Munshaw was a photo finishing company in Vancouver, BC. The slide frames carried their name.

Bob Thompson

North Saanich, BC

Tim O'Connor

#194566

thanks! :-D

On 8/2/2022 11:56 AM, Bob Thompson via groups.io wrote:

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Mortifee Munshaw was a photo finishing company in Vancouver, BC. The slide frames carried their name.

Bob Thompson

North Saanich, BC

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Glen Presley <presleyglen@...>

#194634

The bottom of stock card is treated by lime when cleaning so the colour disappears very quickly and becomes a chalky white colour

Glen

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On Jul 31, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Alexander Schneider Jr <aschneiderjr@...> wrote:

Could someone explain why the bottom 2/3 of the stock cars was gray and the top 1/3 red? If this was lime or something similar used as a disinfectant, should we be doing something similar on stock cars of other roads?

Hey, I'm a city guy. :)

Alex Schneider

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 11:48 AM, Steven D Johnson
<tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:

Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778

Other slides with freight car views from this seller:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512528114?hash=item2b316888f2:g:ZasAAOSwUnBi2HPG

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512517049?hash=item2b31685db9:g:v3UAAOSwlrti2GN~

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512525866?hash=item2b3168802a:g:LCsAAOSwtNti2DGI

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512516284?hash=item2b31685abc:g:rvYAAOSwRLxi2GYN

Looks to be from the early 1960s or so, but still a lot of steam era freight cars:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362124428?hash=item28d465aa8c:g:VRsAAOSwr8pi2Xx7

I have no connection with the seller. Just happened upon these and wanted to share.

Steve Johnson

Bruce Smith

#194636

Glen,

That's a little too absolutist. In fact, the practice of treating with lime was not as widespread in the US as it was in Canada, where it was required, as has been noted earlier in this thread, and most US stock cars did not show this off white band. On the Canadian stock cars in question the off-white was painted on the car. While it may, or may not, have been designed to "hide" the effects of lime treatment, it certainly wasn't caused by it. I will also remind you that typically, the inside of the car was the concern, not the outside, and so profligate use of lime so that it coated the exterior bottom half of the car would have been grossly wasteful.

Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

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The bottom of stock card is treated by lime when cleaning so the colour disappears very quickly and becomes a chalky white colour

Glen

On Jul 31, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Alexander Schneider Jr <aschneiderjr@...> wrote:

Could someone explain why the bottom 2/3 of the stock cars was gray and the top 1/3 red? If this was lime or something similar used as a disinfectant, should we be doing something similar on stock cars of other roads?

Hey, I'm a city guy. :)

Alex Schneider

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 11:48 AM, Steven D Johnson

<tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:

Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778

Other slides with freight car views from this seller:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512528114?hash=item2b316888f2:g:ZasAAOSwUnBi2HPG

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512517049?hash=item2b31685db9:g:v3UAAOSwlrti2GN~

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512525866?hash=item2b3168802a:g:LCsAAOSwtNti2DGI

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512516284?hash=item2b31685abc:g:rvYAAOSwRLxi2GYN

Looks to be from the early 1960s or so, but still a lot of steam era freight cars:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362124428?hash=item28d465aa8c:g:VRsAAOSwr8pi2Xx7

I have no connection with the seller. Just happened upon these and wanted to share.

Steve Johnson

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