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[Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar


Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Brian, all;

 

PRR had no GSC flat cars of the “Commonwealth” design, but did own F41 classes that had a slightly different casting that had a different side tapers, a shallower sill outside the bolsters, and different top members.  They did have the ~60’ version as class F47. (think Tangent)

 

I did an F41 build years ago from the Tichy kit, and agree it is not rounded off enough to closely resemble that casting.  I spent a lot of time with sanding sticks to round off the edges.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 10:51 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar

 

This is one of those weird times when the Walthers car captures the look of the GSC prototype better. The tichy car molding is too sharp for a casting imho. I was going to do a Pennsy car at one time, but something stopped me.  I don’t recall what that was currently.  

 

Removing the tichy weight works as Eric noted. 

Brian J. Carlson 



On Oct 15, 2020, at 10:32 AM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

I’ve had a number of projects “go bad” because I assumed the coupler height would be correct but discovered it to be wrong after too many details had been finished to do a major re-work on the underframe. If possible, I try to locate a drawing giving me dimensions to check earlty in the process.

 

Here is a part of a GSC flat car drawing from the SRHA archives… (measurements are always from top of rail). I have not checked the Tichy (PRR?) version against drawings but the Walthers car issued a number of years ago is nearly perfect.

 

Ike

 

<GSC flat end measurements.jpg>


Brian Carlson
 

Elden That’s probably why I never completed the F41 project, different casting. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Oct 16, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:



Brian, all;

 

PRR had no GSC flat cars of the “Commonwealth” design, but did own F41 classes that had a slightly different casting that had a different side tapers, a shallower sill outside the bolsters, and different top members.  They did have the ~60’ version as class F47. (think Tangent)

 

I did an F41 build years ago from the Tichy kit, and agree it is not rounded off enough to closely resemble that casting.  I spent a lot of time with sanding sticks to round off the edges.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 10:51 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar

 

This is one of those weird times when the Walthers car captures the look of the GSC prototype better. The tichy car molding is too sharp for a casting imho. I was going to do a Pennsy car at one time, but something stopped me.  I don’t recall what that was currently.  

 

Removing the tichy weight works as Eric noted. 

Brian J. Carlson 



On Oct 15, 2020, at 10:32 AM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

I’ve had a number of projects “go bad” because I assumed the coupler height would be correct but discovered it to be wrong after too many details had been finished to do a major re-work on the underframe. If possible, I try to locate a drawing giving me dimensions to check earlty in the process.

 

Here is a part of a GSC flat car drawing from the SRHA archives… (measurements are always from top of rail). I have not checked the Tichy (PRR?) version against drawings but the Walthers car issued a number of years ago is nearly perfect.

 

Ike

 

<GSC flat end measurements.jpg>


Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Brian;

 

The Walthers car certainly does represent a casting much better.  I had no idea it was coming when I did my Tichy bash, otherwise, I would have waited.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 12:55 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar

 

Elden That’s probably why I never completed the F41 project, different casting. 

Brian J. Carlson 



On Oct 16, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Brian, all;

 

PRR had no GSC flat cars of the “Commonwealth” design, but did own F41 classes that had a slightly different casting that had a different side tapers, a shallower sill outside the bolsters, and different top members.  They did have the ~60’ version as class F47. (think Tangent)

 

I did an F41 build years ago from the Tichy kit, and agree it is not rounded off enough to closely resemble that casting.  I spent a lot of time with sanding sticks to round off the edges.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 10:51 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar

 

This is one of those weird times when the Walthers car captures the look of the GSC prototype better. The tichy car molding is too sharp for a casting imho. I was going to do a Pennsy car at one time, but something stopped me.  I don’t recall what that was currently.  

 

Removing the tichy weight works as Eric noted. 

Brian J. Carlson 




On Oct 15, 2020, at 10:32 AM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

I’ve had a number of projects “go bad” because I assumed the coupler height would be correct but discovered it to be wrong after too many details had been finished to do a major re-work on the underframe. If possible, I try to locate a drawing giving me dimensions to check earlty in the process.

 

Here is a part of a GSC flat car drawing from the SRHA archives… (measurements are always from top of rail). I have not checked the Tichy (PRR?) version against drawings but the Walthers car issued a number of years ago is nearly perfect.

 

Ike

 

<GSC flat end measurements.jpg>


Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Group;

 

You can see the F41 side sill taper and depth of bolster-to-end-sill depth better, plus the unusual deck arrangement, in these pics.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 4:21 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar

 

Brian;

 

The Walthers car certainly does represent a casting much better.  I had no idea it was coming when I did my Tichy bash, otherwise, I would have waited.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 12:55 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar

 

Elden That’s probably why I never completed the F41 project, different casting. 

Brian J. Carlson 

 

On Oct 16, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Brian, all;

 

PRR had no GSC flat cars of the “Commonwealth” design, but did own F41 classes that had a slightly different casting that had a different side tapers, a shallower sill outside the bolsters, and different top members.  They did have the ~60’ version as class F47. (think Tangent)

 

I did an F41 build years ago from the Tichy kit, and agree it is not rounded off enough to closely resemble that casting.  I spent a lot of time with sanding sticks to round off the edges.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 10:51 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar

 

This is one of those weird times when the Walthers car captures the look of the GSC prototype better. The tichy car molding is too sharp for a casting imho. I was going to do a Pennsy car at one time, but something stopped me.  I don’t recall what that was currently.  

 

Removing the tichy weight works as Eric noted. 

Brian J. Carlson 



On Oct 15, 2020, at 10:32 AM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

I’ve had a number of projects “go bad” because I assumed the coupler height would be correct but discovered it to be wrong after too many details had been finished to do a major re-work on the underframe. If possible, I try to locate a drawing giving me dimensions to check earlty in the process.

 

Here is a part of a GSC flat car drawing from the SRHA archives… (measurements are always from top of rail). I have not checked the Tichy (PRR?) version against drawings but the Walthers car issued a number of years ago is nearly perfect.

 

Ike

 

<GSC flat end measurements.jpg>