[Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Whose gon is this?
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Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Eric;
Thanks for all that input!
I can’t for the life of me find my P&LE composite gon photos. I had the luck to crawl all over one many years ago, that had gone into MW service intact.
P&LE clearly used a variety of ends on their composite and early steel gons, including a short Dreadnaught-looking end, and an inverted USRA-looking replacement end used on some USRA 46’ gons, that sometimes included a lower end reinforcement plate like in the second photo. Some have more rounded ribs, some less.
Thanks again!
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 11:08 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Whose gon is this?
Eldon,
My original thoughts on identifying that gondola from the car end went straight to some P&LE composite mill gondolas. Here’s a car diagram of what I think we see in that photo. Note how the end drop door is drawn. http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/lot-270.jpg
There were several possible P&LE mill gons with these end drop doors. Here’s a nice view of a Lot 333-G car from the Lackawanna Steamtown photo collection. http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-05-14/C4107.jpg
A neighboring image is a closer look at the end drop door. http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-04-14/C4106.jpg
As I review the original image again, I see Carmer uncoupling hardware. The Carmer products were not used on many NYCL cars, so my suggestions on the NYC/P&LE mill gon possibilities may have been for naught. But it still seems like a composite mill gon to me.
So we look elsewhere. How about this Lackawanna gon from another set of Steamtown photos? http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-06-07-18/X4571.jpg http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-06-07-18/X4573.jpg http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-06-07-18/X4574.jpg
This seems to be a closer possibility. And we get a closer look at the cool brake hardware!
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
https://digital.hagley.org/1986268_1_0627
It looks like a P&LE replacement on a USRA gon, but that pump brake is unfamiliar to me. Anyone recognize it by brand?
Interesting shot.
Elden Gatwood
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