not-PFE Mechanical Reefer Model Project


Tim O'Connor
 

Ed

Small chance of that happening. The NP cars were different -- The BREX (Q) and WFEX (GN) cars were built
in several batches (Q got 3 batches totally 100 cars , GN got five batches totalling 300 cars 1953 to 1961), and
I'm not sure how identical each batch was to the particular FGE cars represented by the model -- but I think there
may have been changes over the several years of batches.

Not that I would not buy a Tangent model of them. I would!! :-D


On 12/7/2022 7:28 PM, spsalso via groups.io wrote:

It'd sure be nice if someone re-did the Golden Spike cars.  They'd be quite useful.  I'm talking Tangent-y style, here.

GN, NP, Q, FGEX

And that's only the ones I know of.

Edward Sutorik

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


spsalso
 

Tim,

It looks like the Q car matches my picture of the same side of an NP car NPM 100-149.  My photo of the GN car in the series WFEX 800-849 is missing the upper louvered opening on the upper left.

Guess the manufacturer might have to cut another mold section or two.

Anyway.  I'd like some, please sir.


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Tim O'Connor
 


If you think the NP PC&F car looks like the FGE car... I guess it's possible to choose
similarities but that's not going to cut it for a vendor like Tangent. Walthers, yes, but they
already pulled the trigger on that one (a really mediocre model of a 50 foot RP).


On 12/8/2022 12:28 PM, spsalso via groups.io wrote:

Tim,

It looks like the Q car matches my picture of the same side of an NP car NPM 100-149.  My photo of the GN car in the series WFEX 800-849 is missing the upper louvered opening on the upper left.

Guess the manufacturer might have to cut another mold section or two.

Anyway.  I'd like some, please sir.

Edward Sutorik

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


spsalso
 

Tim,

I looked again at the photos, and can now see differences.

OK.

" No NP silver reefer for YOU!"

Still, some FGE, Q and GN would do wonders for me.



Ed

Edward Sutorik


charles slater
 

  Tim, I have two Golden Spike reefers for sale if interested. One is an  ART RMDX 393 with Wabash flag and MoPac buzz saw heralds. This one is a KIT.  
  The other one is a Canadian National  CN 16500 with the CN noodle logo, this car is built up with Kadee #5 couplers and Athearn trucks.
  I am asking $20.00 each plus $7.00 shipping.
  Charles Slater MSFM2
 

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Ed

Small chance of that happening. The NP cars were different -- The BREX (Q) and WFEX (GN) cars were built
in several batches (Q got 3 batches totally 100 cars , GN got five batches totalling 300 cars 1953 to 1961), and
I'm not sure how identical each batch was to the particular FGE cars represented by the model -- but I think there
may have been changes over the several years of batches.

Not that I would not buy a Tangent model of them. I would!! :-D


On 12/7/2022 7:28 PM, spsalso via groups.io wrote:
It'd sure be nice if someone re-did the Golden Spike cars.  They'd be quite useful.  I'm talking Tangent-y style, here.

GN, NP, Q, FGEX

And that's only the ones I know of.

Edward Sutorik

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


B.L. Griffith
 

In rereading the Hinman MDC book material on the mechanical reefers (five pages plus a paragraph and pictures on a six), I find I misread it.  The additional converted car (NYMX 2000, built 1946) to the 50 car 1956 order from PC&F that I mistook to be 40’ long is the same length as the others, it does however have 9 panels with riveted overlapping seams between the plug door and the car ends.  Photos of cars from the 50 unit PC&F order show those cars to have six panels occupying the same space.  The ventilation panels and equipment space door is also different on that one car. 

Another oddity is the late 70’s photo of car #1028 on page 250 showing the original decorating scheme, but with a gray side stripe and herald on a solid silver car instead of green stripe & herald on light yellow sides.

After a cursory inspection, it would appear that the Pacific HO kit could be kitbashed into something credible.   Oddly, the model side depicts 7 panels and two horizontal rivet seams in the panel adjacent to the plug door, not an issue if you’re scraping the sides smooth to rework the seams and replace the “golf ball rivets” with resin ones anyway.  With the possible exception of slightly oversize rivets along the horizontal mid seam, the kit manufacturer does appear to have gotten the ends (1-3-4 improved dreadnaught) right, even the rib taper appears to match photos.

Replacing the kit roof with a Moloco 50’ Stanray Overhanging roof (part #RF-0805), if attached to the locating rib on the top of the kit sides, spaces the roof above the car sides per photos.  As the Moloco roof length exactly matches the kit side length, it’s ends would need to be lengthened with styrene strip stock to overhang the car ends per photos.

The kit supplied roofwalk is not see through, so a proper Apex style replacement from KaDee or the photo etched one from Plano would be a must.

Coming up with the correct lettering & heralds might be the most challenging aspect of this kit bash.

The photo shows the kit sides and ends with the Moloco roof.