ORER search 1937-1944


Rupert Gamlen
 

Can anyone with an ORER between 1935 and 1944 assist me with a search for RICX Rustless Iron & Steel Co. hopper cars?

Thanks

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ


Dave Parker
 

Ian Cranstone's nakina.net tabulation says it should be there, but I can't find it in either my 1/38 or 1/40 editions.  ?????
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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


spsalso
 

Not finding the name or the reporting mark in January 1939 or April 1941.

It's possible the owner of the mark did not choose to submit info to the ORER folks.


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Richard Townsend
 

Nothing under Rustless Iron in the "R" sections of the January 1938 and January 1943 ORERs. Could it have been a subsidiary or a division of another company and therefore listed under that name (which apparently does not start with "R").

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Rupert Gamlen
 

Thank you all for looking. I’ll just add it to the list of mini-frustations!

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2022 1:19 pm
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER search 1937-1944

 

Nothing under Rustless Iron in the "R" sections of the January 1938 and January 1943 ORERs. Could it have been a subsidiary or a division of another company and therefore listed under that name (which apparently does not start with "R").

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR


Steve and Barb Hile
 

Ian Cranstone’s list of reporting marks show it was used by Rustless Iron, but he also points out that nothing was listed in the ORER’s.

 

(Ian reviewed many, many ORER’s to build his database and we are the beneficiaries.  Thanks, Ian!)

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 6:19 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER search 1937-1944

 

Nothing under Rustless Iron in the "R" sections of the January 1938 and January 1943 ORERs. Could it have been a subsidiary or a division of another company and therefore listed under that name (which apparently does not start with "R").

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR


Rupert Gamlen
 

Thanks, Steve

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2022 2:50 pm
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER search 1937-1944

 

Ian Cranstone’s list of reporting marks show it was used by Rustless Iron, but he also points out that nothing was listed in the ORER’s.

 

(Ian reviewed many, many ORER’s to build his database and we are the beneficiaries.  Thanks, Ian!)

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 6:19 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER search 1937-1944

 

Nothing under Rustless Iron in the "R" sections of the January 1938 and January 1943 ORERs. Could it have been a subsidiary or a division of another company and therefore listed under that name (which apparently does not start with "R").

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR


Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi everyone,


While I don't know the larger intent for the ORER search request that was originally asked for, perhaps this image (attached) of twin offset side hopper RICX 11will be of interest... it is from Railway Age - Volume 98 - 1935, available on books.google.com


Enjoy!


Claus Schlund



On 02-Dec-22 20:49, Steve and Barb Hile wrote:

Ian Cranstone’s list of reporting marks show it was used by Rustless Iron, but he also points out that nothing was listed in the ORER’s.

 

(Ian reviewed many, many ORER’s to build his database and we are the beneficiaries.  Thanks, Ian!)

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 6:19 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER search 1937-1944

 

Nothing under Rustless Iron in the "R" sections of the January 1938 and January 1943 ORERs. Could it have been a subsidiary or a division of another company and therefore listed under that name (which apparently does not start with "R").

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR


Rupert Gamlen
 

Claus

Yes, I found that one. RICX wasn’t officially allocated to the company until 1937 which is why I didn’t ask for searches before that date.. Any idea who allocated or approved the letters?

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2022 5:20 pm
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER search 1937-1944

 

Hi everyone,

 

While I don't know the larger intent for the ORER search request that was originally asked for, perhaps this image (attached) of twin offset side hopper RICX 11will be of interest... it is from Railway Age - Volume 98 - 1935, available on books.google.com

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

On 02-Dec-22 20:49, Steve and Barb Hile wrote:

Ian Cranstone’s list of reporting marks show it was used by Rustless Iron, but he also points out that nothing was listed in the ORER’s.

 

(Ian reviewed many, many ORER’s to build his database and we are the beneficiaries.  Thanks, Ian!)

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 6:19 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER search 1937-1944

 

Nothing under Rustless Iron in the "R" sections of the January 1938 and January 1943 ORERs. Could it have been a subsidiary or a division of another company and therefore listed under that name (which apparently does not start with "R").

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR


Guy Wilber
 

Rupert wrote:

“Yes, I found that one. RICX wasn’t officially allocated to the company until 1937 which is why I didn’t ask for searches before that date.. Any idea who allocated or approved the letters?”

The Operating Section of The Operating-Transportation Division of The Association of American Railroads was charged with assigning reporting marks from 1934 forward.  

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada


Rupert Gamlen
 

Thanks, Guy

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Guy Wilber via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2022 7:04 pm
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER search 1937-1944

 

Rupert wrote:

 

“Yes, I found that one. RICX wasn’t officially allocated to the company until 1937 which is why I didn’t ask for searches before that date.. Any idea who allocated or approved the letters?”

 

The Operating Section of The Operating-Transportation Division of The Association of American Railroads was charged with assigning reporting marks from 1934 forward.  

 

Guy Wilber

Reno, Nevada


Charlie Vlk
 

All-
Guy is correct.   I have a copy of a letter that granted Grace Tank Car line their reporting marks.   I'm not at my main computer to access it right now and it was likely predecessor ARA given the authority as the company was active earlier. If of interest I will post it later.
Charlie Vlk


On Dec 3, 2022, at 12:03 AM, Guy Wilber via groups.io <guycwilber@...> wrote:


Rupert wrote:

“Yes, I found that one. RICX wasn’t officially allocated to the company until 1937 which is why I didn’t ask for searches before that date.. Any idea who allocated or approved the letters?”

The Operating Section of The Operating-Transportation Division of The Association of American Railroads was charged with assigning reporting marks from 1934 forward.  

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada


Ian Cranstone
 

My pleasure Steve... I've certainly spent a lot of time building it, and am very glad that folks find it useful.

Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
lamontc@...


On 2022-12-02 20:49, Steve and Barb Hile wrote:

Ian Cranstone's list of reporting marks show it was used by Rustless Iron, but he also points out that nothing was listed in the ORER's.

 

(Ian reviewed many, many ORER's to build his database and we are the beneficiaries.  Thanks, Ian!)

 

Steve Hile


John Barry
 

Rupert,

Late to the party, with little to add, but something.  I checked my Jan & April 43 and Jan & Oct 45 ORERS and RICX is listed in the list of Marks assigned private car owners in all four editions.  Unfortunately all four listings bear the Maltese Cross mark that indicates that cars bearing these marks not registered in this issue of the ORER.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA


707-490-9696 






On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 06:14:01 PM EST, Rupert Gamlen <gamlenz@...> wrote:


Can anyone with an ORER between 1935 and 1944 assist me with a search for RICX Rustless Iron & Steel Co. hopper cars?

Thanks

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ


Rupert Gamlen
 

John

Thanks for this information. I now know that RICX 11 was “
In service on CB&Q 1935-1942 – acquired by CB&Q Dec. 15, 1944 – renumbered and released for service May 11, 1945.”

I presume that it was in some form of captive service on the Burlington during this period.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io main@RealSTMFC.groups.io On Behalf Of John Barry
Sent: Monday, 12 December 2022 11:21 am
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER search 1937-1944

 

Rupert,

 

Late to the party, with little to add, but something.  I checked my Jan & April 43 and Jan & Oct 45 ORERS and RICX is listed in the list of Marks assigned private car owners in all four editions.  Unfortunately all four listings bear the Maltese Cross mark that indicates that cars bearing these marks not registered in this issue of the ORER.

 

John Barry

 

ATSF North Bay Lines 

Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

Lovettsville, VA

 

 

707-490-9696 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 06:14:01 PM EST, Rupert Gamlen <gamlenz@...> wrote:

 

 

Can anyone with an ORER between 1935 and 1944 assist me with a search for RICX Rustless Iron & Steel Co. hopper cars?

Thanks

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ