ORER Tank car question


Eric Thur
 

Would anyone have access to a 1950 ORER? I would like if any of these three Tank cars were still listed in 1950 as still being in revenue service? S.S.I.X 100 Series, M.H.T.X 800 Series, and D.A.X. 25. Any information is appreciated.

Eric Thur


Allan Smith <smithal9@...>
 

I found this in the ORER July 1952

SSLX Semet Solvay Division Allied Chemical 213 tank cars page 551
DAX Diamond Alkali CO 118 tank cars page 651
MHTX Mangels Herold CO 2 tank cars #801 802 6kTM page 664

can scan pages if interested. Smithal9@...

On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 12:12:13 PM PST, Eric Thur <erict1361@...> wrote:


Would anyone have access to a 1950 ORER? I would like if any of these three Tank cars were still listed in 1950 as still being in revenue service? S.S.I.X 100 Series, M.H.T.X 800 Series, and D.A.X. 25. Any information is appreciated.

Eric Thur


Tony Thompson
 

Eric Thur wrote:

Would anyone have access to a 1950 ORER? I would like if any of these three Tank cars were still listed in 1950 as still being in revenue service? S.S.I.X 100 Series, M.H.T.X 800 Series, and D.A.X. 25. Any information is appreciated.
Looking at my April 1950 edition, Diamond Alkali’s listing shows no car numbers below 32. The Herald Mangels co. (MHTX) does show 9 cars in the 800 series. In this Register, SSIX is not shown as an assigned reporting mark.

Tony Thompson


John Barry
 

Eric,

SSIX is not listed in Jan 43, Jan 45 or Jan 53.  MHTX 801, 802, 2 cars are listed in both Jan 45 and Jan 53,  Jan 43 and 45 show DAX 25-28, but Jan 53 starts with DAX 32.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA


707-490-9696 






On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 03:12:13 PM EST, Eric Thur <erict1361@...> wrote:


Would anyone have access to a 1950 ORER? I would like if any of these three Tank cars were still listed in 1950 as still being in revenue service? S.S.I.X 100 Series, M.H.T.X 800 Series, and D.A.X. 25. Any information is appreciated.

Eric Thur


Eric Thur
 

Thank you all for the information, I appreciate it !

Eric Thur


Steve and Barb Hile
 

It looks like SSIX disappeared into GATX about 1935.  The SSIX marks are in an ORER under GATX in 1935, but are not there in 1938.

 

In July 1950 ORER the lowest DAX number is 32.

 

MHTX 801 and 802 are shown in July 1950.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Barry
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2023 5:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER Tank car question

 

Eric,

 

SSIX is not listed in Jan 43, Jan 45 or Jan 53.  MHTX 801, 802, 2 cars are listed in both Jan 45 and Jan 53,  Jan 43 and 45 show DAX 25-28, but Jan 53 starts with DAX 32.

 

John Barry

 

ATSF North Bay Lines 

Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

Lovettsville, VA

 

 

707-490-9696 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 03:12:13 PM EST, Eric Thur <erict1361@...> wrote:

 

 

Would anyone have access to a 1950 ORER? I would like if any of these three Tank cars were still listed in 1950 as still being in revenue service? S.S.I.X 100 Series, M.H.T.X 800 Series, and D.A.X. 25. Any information is appreciated.

Eric Thur


Jim Gates
 

Were the SSIX cars leased from Pennsylvania-Conley Tank Car, which went into General American in 1935?

Jim Gates
On Saturday, February 25, 2023, 01:27:24 AM CST, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:


It looks like SSIX disappeared into GATX about 1935.  The SSIX marks are in an ORER under GATX in 1935, but are not there in 1938.

 

In July 1950 ORER the lowest DAX number is 32.

 

MHTX 801 and 802 are shown in July 1950.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Barry
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2023 5:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER Tank car question

 

Eric,

 

SSIX is not listed in Jan 43, Jan 45 or Jan 53.  MHTX 801, 802, 2 cars are listed in both Jan 45 and Jan 53,  Jan 43 and 45 show DAX 25-28, but Jan 53 starts with DAX 32.

 

John Barry

 

ATSF North Bay Lines 

Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

Lovettsville, VA

 

 

707-490-9696 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 03:12:13 PM EST, Eric Thur <erict1361@...> wrote:

 

 

Would anyone have access to a 1950 ORER? I would like if any of these three Tank cars were still listed in 1950 as still being in revenue service? S.S.I.X 100 Series, M.H.T.X 800 Series, and D.A.X. 25. Any information is appreciated.

Eric Thur


Steve and Barb Hile
 

As of April 1930, this was the Standard Silicate’s entry in the ORER.

 

 

Beyond that, I can’t tell.  In 1935, under GATX, there is only one line of data, listing SSIX numbers between 10 and 115 with no quantity listed.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Gates via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2023 11:13 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER Tank car question

 

Were the SSIX cars leased from Pennsylvania-Conley Tank Car, which went into General American in 1935?

Jim Gates

On Saturday, February 25, 2023, 01:27:24 AM CST, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

 

 

It looks like SSIX disappeared into GATX about 1935.  The SSIX marks are in an ORER under GATX in 1935, but are not there in 1938.

 

In July 1950 ORER the lowest DAX number is 32.

 

MHTX 801 and 802 are shown in July 1950.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Barry
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2023 5:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER Tank car question

 

Eric,

 

SSIX is not listed in Jan 43, Jan 45 or Jan 53.  MHTX 801, 802, 2 cars are listed in both Jan 45 and Jan 53,  Jan 43 and 45 show DAX 25-28, but Jan 53 starts with DAX 32.

 

John Barry

 

ATSF North Bay Lines 

Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

Lovettsville, VA

 

 

707-490-9696 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 03:12:13 PM EST, Eric Thur <erict1361@...> wrote:

 

 

Would anyone have access to a 1950 ORER? I would like if any of these three Tank cars were still listed in 1950 as still being in revenue service? S.S.I.X 100 Series, M.H.T.X 800 Series, and D.A.X. 25. Any information is appreciated.

Eric Thur


Jack Mullen
 

The tank car capacity tariff lists individual cars, so it can help fill the void when the ORER listing doesn't show quantities in a number range.

For SSIX, the 1936 listing shows 14 cars: 
30,40,50,60,70,90,100, 103-106, 108,111,113

Unfortunately by the timeframe of the OP, they'd disappeared into the GATX fleet.

Jack Mullen