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P2k Mather 40' SS Muncie and Western box car MWR 1272

Bill McCoy
 

I recently bought a P2K Mather 40' boxcar. Car Number MWR 1272. Weigh Date is Mather at Chicago Ridge 9-48. My 1950 Westerfied OER shows the car but the 1959 Westerfield OER shows all steel 40' boxcars. I model 1957-1967 and want to see if this car made it to 1957. It's a really nice model and regardless it will stay in the collecton. Any help on dating this will be much appreciated

Happy Thanksgiving,
Bill McCoy
Jax, FL

Richard Townsend
 

My January 1958 ORER shows 8 cars in the series MWR 1281-1299 and 62 cars in the series MWR 1101-1265. That leaves out MWR 1272. Anyway, as I recall the  prototype of the P2K Mather cars were not as tall as the prototype MWR cars. In other words, the model is a slight foobie.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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Subject: [RealSTMFC] P2k Mather 40' SS Muncie and Western box car MWR 1272

I recently bought a P2K Mather 40' boxcar. Car Number MWR 1272. Weigh Date is Mather at Chicago Ridge 9-48. My 1950 Westerfied OER shows the car but the 1959 Westerfield OER shows all steel 40' boxcars. I model 1957-1967 and want to see if this car made it to 1957. It's a really nice model and regardless it will stay in the collecton. Any help on dating this will be much appreciated

Happy Thanksgiving,
Bill McCoy
Jax, FL

brianleppert@att.net
 

Bill, the July 1957 ORER shows 75 cars in the MWR 1201-1275 listing.  Inside height was 8'-8".

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV

spsalso
 

The next ORER (October 1957) maintains that same info.


Ed

Edward Sutorik

Bill McCoy
 

Thanks guys. Looks like I lucked up re the date. Also I measured what would be the IH and it's 8' 8" on the model. I think there was a Sunshine model of the mather boxcars that was taller.

Bill McCoy
Jax, FL
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Philip Dove
 

I recall that one of the P2k matcher cattle cars had some minor dimensional compromise so both double deck and single deck cars could be made from the same body. 

Philip Dove
 

Sorry should have read the header more carefully

Craig Zeni
 

Bill, there was indeed a 'tall Mather' kit from Sunshine, kit 103. See attached for details.

Craig Zeni
Mayberry NC

PDF
sun103a.pdf

Tim O'Connor
 


Sunshine also produced kits 6.1 to 6.4 which were 7-8, 8-0, 8-5 and 8-7 Mather box cars :-)

And both single and double deck Mather stock cars (I think the Proto 2000 kit was a double deck?)


On 11/25/2022 6:55 PM, Craig Zeni wrote:

Bill, there was indeed a 'tall Mather' kit from Sunshine, kit 103. See attached for details.

Craig Zeni
Mayberry NC

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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