PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE


Steve SANDIFER
 

I assume folks realize that ATSF changed their reefer color in 1956 from the yellow orange to a brighter orange. Here is a photo of the original yellow on an Intermountain ice reefer and the color drift card for the new color which Rapido is using on their RR-56 project.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 10:46 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

 

Very late in their careers, some of the Santa Fe's ice bunker reefers were painted the same orange usually associated with their later mechanical reefers.
Here is a Chard Walker photo.
Somewhere in my files I have a photo of two Santa Fe ice bunker reefers together, one orange and one yellow.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group

https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup


Allan Smith
 


Attached are some photos I took of ATSF reefers in a field south of Amarillo in 2009. Notice the difference between the sides and the doors.

Al Smith
Sonora CA
On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 03:01:22 PM PDT, Steve SANDIFER <steve.sandifer@...> wrote:


I assume folks realize that ATSF changed their reefer color in 1956 from the yellow orange to a brighter orange. Here is a photo of the original yellow on an Intermountain ice reefer and the color drift card for the new color which Rapido is using on their RR-56 project.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 10:46 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

 

Very late in their careers, some of the Santa Fe's ice bunker reefers were painted the same orange usually associated with their later mechanical reefers.
Here is a Chard Walker photo.
Somewhere in my files I have a photo of two Santa Fe ice bunker reefers together, one orange and one yellow.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group

https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup


Nelson Moyer
 

This reefer looks much the same color as those I’ve seen painted with Accupaint Harvest Yellow and the photos Bill Pardie posted. I’m going to color sample your reefer and see how it matches the other colors on my chip file.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve SANDIFER
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 5:01 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

 

I assume folks realize that ATSF changed their reefer color in 1956 from the yellow orange to a brighter orange. Here is a photo of the original yellow on an Intermountain ice reefer and the color drift card for the new color which Rapido is using on their RR-56 project.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 


Steve SANDIFER
 

The latest Santa Fe Painting and Lettering Guide says:

 

Reefer Orange (early)

0-43-87-0

PMS 151C

 

Reefer Orange (late) (after 1956)

0-60-94-0

PMS 158C

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 5:24 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

 

This reefer looks much the same color as those I’ve seen painted with Accupaint Harvest Yellow and the photos Bill Pardie posted. I’m going to color sample your reefer and see how it matches the other colors on my chip file.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve SANDIFER
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 5:01 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

 

I assume folks realize that ATSF changed their reefer color in 1956 from the yellow orange to a brighter orange. Here is a photo of the original yellow on an Intermountain ice reefer and the color drift card for the new color which Rapido is using on their RR-56 project.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 


Nelson Moyer
 

The early version is the CMYK chip I posted earlier.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve SANDIFER
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 6:03 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

 

The latest Santa Fe Painting and Lettering Guide says:

 

Reefer Orange (early)

0-43-87-0

PMS 151C

 

Reefer Orange (late) (after 1956)

0-60-94-0

PMS 158C

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 5:24 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

 

This reefer looks much the same color as those I’ve seen painted with Accupaint Harvest Yellow and the photos Bill Pardie posted. I’m going to color sample your reefer and see how it matches the other colors on my chip file.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve SANDIFER
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 5:01 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

 

I assume folks realize that ATSF changed their reefer color in 1956 from the yellow orange to a brighter orange. Here is a photo of the original yellow on an Intermountain ice reefer and the color drift card for the new color which Rapido is using on their RR-56 project.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 


Tim O'Connor
 


which IMO is a good reason to use a faded color that looks as if it is sunlit, under indoor lights :-)


On 6/27/2022 6:01 PM, Steve SANDIFER wrote:

I assume folks realize that ATSF changed their reefer color in 1956 from the yellow orange to a brighter orange. Here is a photo of the original yellow on an Intermountain ice reefer and the color drift card for the new color which Rapido is using on their RR-56 project.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 10:46 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

 

Very late in their careers, some of the Santa Fe's ice bunker reefers were painted the same orange usually associated with their later mechanical reefers.
Here is a Chard Walker photo.
Somewhere in my files I have a photo of two Santa Fe ice bunker reefers together, one orange and one yellow.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group

https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Tony Thompson
 

Steve SANDIFER wrote:

The latest Santa Fe Painting and Lettering Guide says:
 
Reefer Orange (early)
0-43-87-0
PMS 151C

I just checked the Pantone 151-C chip against the PFE standard orange chip. They are quite close, so I guess Richard was right in saying that very thing. I would not have thought so from what I‘ve heard from most Santa Fe modelers over the years. 

Tony Thompson