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Photo: B&O Boxcar 175574 (1940)


Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: B&O Boxcar 175574 (1940)

A photo from the Historic Pittsburgh Collection:

https://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.4054768.CP

Click on the photo and then scroll to enlarge it.

Two additional B&O boxcars in the photo.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


vincent altiere
 

Bob-

Looking at that photo, it appears that the car farthest from the camera has a door that opens to the left. Do you know what B&O class of boxcars that might belong to ?? I wasn't aware the B&O had that type of car.

Vince Altiere


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Photo: B&O Boxcar 175574 (1940)
A photo from the Historic Pittsburgh Collection:
Click on the photo and then scroll to enlarge it.
Two additional B&O boxcars in the photo.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Benjamin Hom
 

Vince Altiere asked:
"Looking at that photo, it appears that the car farthest from the camera has a door that opens to the left. Do you know what B&O class of boxcars that might belong to? I wasn't aware the B&O had that type of car."
https://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.4054768.CP

Class M-15H or M-15J, obsolescent double-sheathed automobile boxcars converted to general service boxcars by removing the right-opening door and sheathing over the opening, creating cars with left-opening doors.  Kits available in HO scale from Westerfield.
https://id18538.securedata.net/westerfieldmodels.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?cPath=99_373&products_id=317

As railroads adopted Evans automobile loaders, lower-height automobile boxcars were repurposed as general service boxcars, first through the expedient of securing auxiliary doors, then by minor rebuilding by removing auxiliary doors and sheathing over the opening.  PRR Class X28/X28A is an example of early steel automobile boxcars that underwent this conversion, and other examples include N&W Class BP/BPA and CNJ.


Ben Hom





Eric Hansmann
 

The B&O literally had thousands of boxcars with left-opening doors.

 

Both of the double-sheathed cars in the Pittsburgh image are from the M-15 class, but there were a number of sub-classes with individual hardware characteristics. I do not know how many M-15 cars had the left-opening doors, but it was a common feature. For several years in the 1920s, the M-15 class was the most numerous boxcar on the B&O. The heavy underframe became the basis for rebuilding many into the  M-15k subclass; the familiar wagon-top boxcars.

 

There were also thousands of M-8 class 36-ft double-sheathed boxcars with left-opening doors. Many of the M-8 cars started moving off regular service as the steel-sheathed M-26 cars came into the fleet in the mid-1920s. The majority were scrapped but many moved to maintenance service. There were 9988 M-8 and subclass cars on the 1926 B&O ORER listings. These were gone by the 1943 ORER.

 

The M-13 and M-14 classes were also 36-ft double-sheathed boxcars with left-opening doors. These cars had a distinctive fishbelly side sill. The M-14 class were originally ventilated cars but rebuilt into M-14a boxcars in the 1920s. 4366 of these cars were listed in the 1926 ORER. By the 1943 listings, these had dwindled to 62 cars.

 

The M-12 class were similar to the M-13 cars and installed during PRR control in 1902. These were a variation on the Pennsy XL boxcar design. Of the 1239 cars listed in the 1926 ORER, only nine cars were in the 1943 ORER.

 

Look how interesting the earlier freight car fleet can be!!

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of vincent altiere via groups.io
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Bob-

 

Looking at that photo, it appears that the car farthest from the camera has a door that opens to the left. Do you know what B&O class of boxcars that might belong to ?? I wasn't aware the B&O had that type of car.

 

Vince Altiere

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Sent: Wed, Sep 9, 2020 10:29 am
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: B&O Boxcar 175574 (1940)

Photo: B&O Boxcar 175574 (1940)

A photo from the Historic Pittsburgh Collection:

Click on the photo and then scroll to enlarge it.

Two additional B&O boxcars in the photo.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Donald B. Valentine
 

Not only does the door open to the left but except for that and what appears to be a wood sheathed end the car looks to be an earlier version of the first car.

 

Cordially, Don Valentine

 

 


vincent altiere
 

Thanks Ben

Vince Altiere


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Vince Altiere asked:
"Looking at that photo, it appears that the car farthest from the camera has a door that opens to the left. Do you know what B&O class of boxcars that might belong to? I wasn't aware the B&O had that type of car."
https://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.4054768.CP

Class M-15H or M-15J, obsolescent double-sheathed automobile boxcars converted to general service boxcars by removing the right-opening door and sheathing over the opening, creating cars with left-opening doors.  Kits available in HO scale from Westerfield.
https://id18538.securedata.net/westerfieldmodels.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?cPath=99_373&products_id=317

As railroads adopted Evans automobile loaders, lower-height automobile boxcars were repurposed as general service boxcars, first through the expedient of securing auxiliary doors, then by minor rebuilding by removing auxiliary doors and sheathing over the opening.  PRR Class X28/X28A is an example of early steel automobile boxcars that underwent this conversion, and other examples include N&W Class BP/BPA and CNJ.


Ben Hom





vincent altiere
 

Thanks Eric.

Vince Altiere


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: B&O Boxcar 175574 (1940)

The B&O literally had thousands of boxcars with left-opening doors.
 
Both of the double-sheathed cars in the Pittsburgh image are from the M-15 class, but there were a number of sub-classes with individual hardware characteristics. I do not know how many M-15 cars had the left-opening doors, but it was a common feature. For several years in the 1920s, the M-15 class was the most numerous boxcar on the B&O. The heavy underframe became the basis for rebuilding many into the  M-15k subclass; the familiar wagon-top boxcars.
 
There were also thousands of M-8 class 36-ft double-sheathed boxcars with left-opening doors. Many of the M-8 cars started moving off regular service as the steel-sheathed M-26 cars came into the fleet in the mid-1920s. The majority were scrapped but many moved to maintenance service. There were 9988 M-8 and subclass cars on the 1926 B&O ORER listings. These were gone by the 1943 ORER.
 
The M-13 and M-14 classes were also 36-ft double-sheathed boxcars with left-opening doors. These cars had a distinctive fishbelly side sill. The M-14 class were originally ventilated cars but rebuilt into M-14a boxcars in the 1920s. 4366 of these cars were listed in the 1926 ORER. By the 1943 listings, these had dwindled to 62 cars.
 
The M-12 class were similar to the M-13 cars and installed during PRR control in 1902. These were a variation on the Pennsy XL boxcar design. Of the 1239 cars listed in the 1926 ORER, only nine cars were in the 1943 ORER.
 
Look how interesting the earlier freight car fleet can be!!
 
 
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
 
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of vincent altiere via groups.io
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Bob-
 
Looking at that photo, it appears that the car farthest from the camera has a door that opens to the left. Do you know what B&O class of boxcars that might belong to ?? I wasn't aware the B&O had that type of car.
 
Vince Altiere

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Sent: Wed, Sep 9, 2020 10:29 am
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: B&O Boxcar 175574 (1940)
Photo: B&O Boxcar 175574 (1940)
A photo from the Historic Pittsburgh Collection:
Click on the photo and then scroll to enlarge it.
Two additional B&O boxcars in the photo.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA