Photo: Baggage Carload Of Bicycles
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Photo: Baggage Carload Of Bicycles Photo courtesy of “Sm2501” on the Classic & Antique Bicycle Exchange Website. https://thecabe.com/forum/attachments/hjc26-1-jpg.519167/ You just never know where you will find railroad stuff on the Internet. I am surprised this load wasn’t shipped in a boxcar. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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ROGER HINMAN
Nice photo, anyone able to read the letter board?
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Roger hinman On Nov 21, 2022, at 4:10 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
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mopacfirst
I can't read it, but I presume this is a Santa Fe car based on the sill.
Ron Merrick |
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Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi Bob, Roger, and List Members,
I can make out the letters "PITTS" - which naturally makes be think PITTSBURGH is in the road name. Miami Cycle and Manufacturing Company was in Middletown OH, so if we figure the load originated there then that limits the railroads it could have been.
Some possibilities...
P&LE P&WV P&S P&SN
I'm sure there are others I am overlooking
The fisbelly underframe design looks a little unique - surely
someone knows who has baggage cars with this underframe
construction type other than AT&SF
Claus Schlund
On 21-Nov-22 16:28, ROGER HINMAN via
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Looks like it says Pittsburg, or maybe Pittsboro, between the doors, after adjusting the contrast. Miami Cycle & Manufacturing was based in Middletown Ohio. One date shows they built bicycles 1898-1924
Doug Harding https://www.facebook.com/douglas.harding.3156/ Youtube: Douglas Harding Iowa Central Railroad
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of ROGER HINMAN via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 3:29 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Baggage Carload Of Bicycles
Nice photo, anyone able to read the letter board?
Roger hinman
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Alex Schneider
At least by 1952 the principal passenger service was on NYC’s line from Cincinnati to Cleveland; the B&O line between Cincinnati and Toledo also stopped in West Middletown. Middletown was also the end of a freight-only branch of the PRR. Farther back, the Pittsburgh, Fort Wayne & Chicago ran nearby, and wasn’t absorbed by PRR until 1918.
Alex Schneider
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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 4:06 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Baggage Carload Of Bicycles
Looks like it says Pittsburg, or maybe Pittsboro, between the doors, after adjusting the contrast. Miami Cycle & Manufacturing was based in Middletown Ohio. One date shows they built bicycles 1898-1924
Doug Harding https://www.facebook.com/douglas.harding.3156/ Youtube: Douglas Harding Iowa Central Railroad
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Nice photo, anyone able to read the letter board?
Roger hinman
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Todd Sullivan
Claus,
Pittburg & Shawmut and P&S Northern are two long shots in your list. They were both coal and lumber roads wiht a north-south orientation rather than east-west. Todd Sullivan |
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Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi Todd,
Yes, I totally agree, they were long shots.
Claus Schlund
On 21-Nov-22 18:54, Todd Sullivan via
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Claus, |
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Steve SANDIFER
It’s a Santa Fe car. Note the sill.
J. Stephen Sandifer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of ROGER HINMAN via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 3:29 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Baggage Carload Of Bicycles
Nice photo, anyone able to read the letter board?
Roger hinman
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Jack Mullen
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 01:10 PM, Bob Chaparro wrote:
I am surprised this load wasn’t shipped in a boxcar.The banner says this load was shipped express, so a baggage-express car is the type the express company is readily able to supply. The question might be why the shipper chose express, at a higher rate vs. freight. Obviously, the customer wanted to generate publicity, and a carload express shipment could help communicate that this is important business. But there may be more practical considerations in play. Express would be faster, perhaps a few days instead of a couple weeks. It's more carefully handled and tracked, less at risk of damage or pilfering. The bicycle crates are pretty minimal, so damage from switching impacts could be a concern. If the manufacturer doesn't have its own track, pickup and delivery by the express company may be a big advantage over use of a team track. It may be that the manufacturer normally ships by express in smaller lots, and is just doing the same in carload volume. The true reasons in this case are lost to history, but differences such as this were common factors in choice of mode in the steam era. Jack Mullen |
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