Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)


Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1993233_G2_S2_010_07_017

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Bob and Friends,

The Interstate image was super dark, and I was curious about the trucks. So I took a screenshot and did some simple Photoshop manipulation, which is presented in the attached image.

The trucks are archbar, but a type I can't remember ever seeing. The lower chord dips down considerably below the springs.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆



On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 12:43 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1993233_G2_S2_010_07_017

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Schuyler Larrabee
 

Agreed the original image was dark, thanks for prepping it so we can see.  I’ve seen archbar trucks like that before.

 

But what I’m curious about is what IS that load?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

 

Bob and Friends,

 

The Interstate image was super dark, and I was curious about the trucks. So I took a screenshot and did some simple Photoshop manipulation, which is presented in the attached image.

 

The trucks are archbar, but a type I can't remember ever seeing. The lower chord dips down considerably below the springs.

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

 

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 12:43 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1993233_G2_S2_010_07_017

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Schuyler and List Members,
 
The info at the web page sez the title for the photo is "Coke loaded in Interstate Railroad cars". So clearly someone thought it was coke.
 
While it could be coke, the shape of the chunks that make up the load get me thinking in terms of it being charcoal.
 
Claus Schlund
 

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Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

Agreed the original image was dark, thanks for prepping it so we can see.  I’ve seen archbar trucks like that before.

 

But what I’m curious about is what IS that load?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:59 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

 

Bob and Friends,

 

The Interstate image was super dark, and I was curious about the trucks. So I took a screenshot and did some simple Photoshop manipulation, which is presented in the attached image.

 

The trucks are archbar, but a type I can't remember ever seeing. The lower chord dips down considerably below the springs.

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

 

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 12:43 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1993233_G2_S2_010_07_017

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob, Schuyler, and List Members,
 
Upon checking thru my records, it appears I (and potentially "we" as a list... ) have run into this image before. My notes indicate INT 10144 is a 36ft drop bottom gon and is part of series 10000-10199 and is ex-DRGW. I did NOT make any record of where I learned this info, so I offer this info as 'source unknown' and worth what you paid me for it.
 
Zooming in on the image, the car is stencilled as BUILT NEW 1-1913
 
Further, I will point out that the metadata text at the page indicates the following additional info which I have not seen before...
 
 
Former owner: Westmoreland Coal Company
Originator: Interstate Railroad Company
 
 
Anyone know how it is that Westmoreland Coal Company fits into this equation?
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

Hi Schuyler and List Members,
 
The info at the web page sez the title for the photo is "Coke loaded in Interstate Railroad cars". So clearly someone thought it was coke.
 
While it could be coke, the shape of the chunks that make up the load get me thinking in terms of it being charcoal.
 
Claus Schlund
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

Agreed the original image was dark, thanks for prepping it so we can see.  I’ve seen archbar trucks like that before.

 

But what I’m curious about is what IS that load?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:59 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

 

Bob and Friends,

 

The Interstate image was super dark, and I was curious about the trucks. So I took a screenshot and did some simple Photoshop manipulation, which is presented in the attached image.

 

The trucks are archbar, but a type I can't remember ever seeing. The lower chord dips down considerably below the springs.

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

 

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 12:43 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1993233_G2_S2_010_07_017

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


George Courtney
 

I only know that Westmoreland Coal Company bought a Southern Railway yard to collect coal from hoppers off the Southern and the former Interstate after Southern bought the Interstate.  If Westmoreland bought any of the older Virginia Coal and Iron coal mines I'm not sure.  I would have thought Westmoreland came to this area after these gondolas were no longer in use.
Side note.  I once read that on Saluda's famous Saluda Grade, someone wrote most around World War I era were problems descending the grade were with Interstate cars.  They did not mention hoppers or gons.

George Courtney


George Courtney
 

I should have added, it would seem to me, Westmoreland Coal acquired the photos, not the gons.

George Courtney


Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi George and List Members,
 
Thanks George, sounds plausible to me!
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

I should have added, it would seem to me, Westmoreland Coal acquired the photos, not the gons.

George Courtney


CJ Riley
 


Looks a bit like a load of puppies but that seems unlikely!



kevinhlafferty
 

Kadee's archbar trucks in HO are very similar to these.

Kevin Lafferty


David
 

These cars were built new for the Interstate by Pressed Steel Car in 1913. They are nominally identical to a D&RGW series built around that same time. Corey Bonsall offers a modernized (with side extensions) version of the Rio Grande car.

David Thompson


lrkdbn
 

Corey makes the original version too
LarryKing


Philip Dove
 

The stuff in that gondola doesn't look like any coke I have ever seen. I lived a long time near two big coking plants and went  inside both, at home we burnt coke for about 10 years on a fire that where you had to throw the coal on with a small spade or out of a bucket. for those of you who don't know coke is more a gunmetal color almost mid grey sometimes rather than the black of coal. Seen close up it has a structure similar to Cinder toffee.

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Douglas Harding
 

The load looks like sugar beets to me. It is quite possible the car got offline and was “borrowed” during the beet season. Ohio raised a lot of sugar beets, so the car did not have to travel too far off line.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org


Philip Dove
 

I never thought of sugar beet, but now you say it l agree they almost certainly are sugar beets. 

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-------- Original message --------
From: Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...>
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021, 00:28
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

The load looks like sugar beets to me. It is quite possible the car got offline and was “borrowed” during the beet season. Ohio raised a lot of sugar beets, so the car did not have to travel too far off line.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org