Photos of CMO AAR cars
I also have been wanting to model one of the CMO cars in the 20000-22414 series. I think the challenge in HO is the Superior door with the wide space at the top. I have not found a good model for this door. Does anybody have any suggestions? It does look like the 1970 photo Tony Wagner sent has a different door.
This page has additional photos:
http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/cnw72710main.html
Andy Cich
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 4:49 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos of CMO AAR cars
Tony, note that 20000-20048 were AAR BX express box and 20050-22414 (1175 cars in my 1-1-50 ORER) were AAR XM. In both groups CMO used even numbers only. Also note that the express versions were built with Allied full cushion trucks and later got regular passenger trucks. The in-service photo of 20024 was taken in Waukesha WI in 1970 long after CNW/CMO passenger service had been reduced to Chicago area commuter trains except for a hold out from Chicago to Green Bay that disappeared with the coming of Amtrak. Hope this helps. Tony Wagner
On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 03:41:23 PM CST, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
I was thinking of modeling one of the CMO cars in the 20000-22414 series and thought I had a photo for the lettering. But my photo is for one of the rebuilt cars. Does anyone have a photo to show lettering? I do have decals.
Tony Thompson
Tony Thompson
tony@...
If you are modeling the as-built CMO 20050-21398 (even numbers) series cars with the "Route of the 400" slogan, my notes indicate that the ends were same freight car red/brown as the sides and roof. If I recall correctly, some later series of CMO 40-foot cars did have black ends.
Rob Adams
Wellman, IA
Thanks to Tony Wagner and Tim O’Connor for nice photos, even though most are of the express cars, which I am not going to do. But plenty of lettering info for these cars. I have some Richard Hendrickson notes on the non-express cars that says “black ends.” Is this correct?
Tony Thompson
tony@...
Here is the paint information I have -- All of these are AAR 10-6 5/5 ends 6ft doors
Viking roof cars 1941=1942
CMO 20000-22414
Mineral Red Sides, Ends & Roof; Black U/F & Trucks "Route of the 400" on both sides
CNW 71000-74398
Mineral Red Sides, Ends & Roof; Black U/F & Trucks "Route of the 400" on both sides
SRE (Murphy) roof cars 1944=1945
CNW 80252-81450
Mineral Red Sides; Black Ends, Roof, U/F & Trucks "Route of the Challengers" on both sides
CNW 81452-82650
Mineral Red Sides; Black Ends, Roof, U/F & Trucks
"Route of the Streamliners" on right side & "Overland Route" on left side
CNW 82652-84250
Mineral Red Sides; Black Ends, Roof, U/F & Trucks
"Route of the 400 Fleet" on right side & "Overland Route" on left side
On 1/24/2023 9:08 PM, Rob Adams wrote:
Hi Tony;
If you are modeling the as-built CMO 20050-21398 (even numbers) series cars with the "Route of the 400" slogan, my notes indicate that the ends were same freight car red/brown as the sides and roof. If I recall correctly, some later series of CMO 40-foot cars did have black ends.
Rob Adams
Wellman, IA
On 1/24/23 8:44 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Thanks to Tony Wagner and Tim O’Connor for nice photos, even though most are of the express cars, which I am not going to do. But plenty of lettering info for these cars. I have some Richard Hendrickson notes on the non-express cars that says “black ends.” Is this correct?
Tony Thompson
tony@...
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
On 1/25/2023 11:10 AM, ottokroutil via groups.io wrote:
Thank you for the photos. Good info.A question from this west coast, pre-'51 modeler: when did the C&NW start using the large lettering?Feedback appreciated!Otto K.
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
