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Dave Wetterstroem
 

Has anyone made a list of what manufactures have made PS-1 boxcars in HO scale and what attributes each model has? 

Something like Kadee 40' PS-1 Boxcar 10 panel, 6' Youngstown Door etc. 
I am trying to build my fleet of C&O boxcars. I have the data on these, but don't know which model would be the closest for each series. I realize that in today's world, just because it was made, doesn't mean you will be able to find it, but it would be nice to see what options are available in a single list. 

Road Series Description Built date Quantity Built Quantity 1952 Door Opening Door Style Panels
C&O 15000-15999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Feb-48 1000 975 6' 7P Sup1 12
C&O 16000-16999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Dec-50 1000 2496 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 17000-17999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Sep-51 1000 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 18000-18499 PS-1 40' Boxcar Jun-52 500 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 18500-18999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Jun-52 500 500 8' 6P Sup1 10

 
Paul Doggett
 

Dave 

I know Intermountain produced them but not sure of the details about them I suspect that they were all produced to the same pattern.
Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 11 Oct 2022, at 16:12, Dave Wetterstroem <framemakers@...> wrote:



Has anyone made a list of what manufactures have made PS-1 boxcars in HO scale and what attributes each model has? 

Something like Kadee 40' PS-1 Boxcar 10 panel, 6' Youngstown Door etc. 
I am trying to build my fleet of C&O boxcars. I have the data on these, but don't know which model would be the closest for each series. I realize that in today's world, just because it was made, doesn't mean you will be able to find it, but it would be nice to see what options are available in a single list. 

Road Series Description Built date Quantity Built Quantity 1952 Door Opening Door Style Panels
C&O 15000-15999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Feb-48 1000 975 6' 7P Sup1 12
C&O 16000-16999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Dec-50 1000 2496 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 17000-17999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Sep-51 1000 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 18000-18499 PS-1 40' Boxcar Jun-52 500 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 18500-18999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Jun-52 500 500 8' 6P Sup1 10

 
Richard Townsend
 

What I know of is:

Kar-Line (later Cannonball)
AHM (later Con-Cor)
McKean
Intermountain
Kadee

I’m not home so I can’t describe the attributes of each. Maybe in a few weeks when I get home. I have examples of all.


On Oct 11, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:

Dave 

I know Intermountain produced them but not sure of the details about them I suspect that they were all produced to the same pattern.
Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 11 Oct 2022, at 16:12, Dave Wetterstroem <framemakers@...> wrote:



Has anyone made a list of what manufactures have made PS-1 boxcars in HO scale and what attributes each model has? 

Something like Kadee 40' PS-1 Boxcar 10 panel, 6' Youngstown Door etc. 
I am trying to build my fleet of C&O boxcars. I have the data on these, but don't know which model would be the closest for each series. I realize that in today's world, just because it was made, doesn't mean you will be able to find it, but it would be nice to see what options are available in a single list. 

Road Series Description Built date Quantity Built Quantity 1952 Door Opening Door Style Panels
C&O 15000-15999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Feb-48 1000 975 6' 7P Sup1 12
C&O 16000-16999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Dec-50 1000 2496 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 17000-17999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Sep-51 1000 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 18000-18499 PS-1 40' Boxcar Jun-52 500 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 18500-18999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Jun-52 500 500 8' 6P Sup1 10

 
Chris Barkan
 

I think Kurtz Kraft was the predecessor to Cannonball. They were flat kits of injection-molded styrene.  Here is an example for sale on EBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/125536855972   For their time, these were considered accurate models, although I think I recall learning later that they were a bit oversize in at least one dimension.   Kar-Line on the other hand, did high quality (for the time) custom painting and decaling of other manufacturers' models, especially Athearn.  Here are some examples for sale ion EBay https://www.ebay.com/b/Kar-Line-Model-Railroads-and-Trains/180250/bn_1646428  I am not aware that they ever did a PS-1 but they might have.
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Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL
Richard Townsend
 

Thanks for the corrections and additions.


On Oct 11, 2022, at 6:48 PM, Chris Barkan <cplbarkan@...> wrote:

I think Kurtz Kraft was the predecessor to Cannonball. They were flat kits of injection-molded styrene.  Here is an example for sale on EBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/125536855972   For their time, these were considered accurate models, although I think I recall learning later that they were a bit oversize in at least one dimension.   Kar-Line on the other hand, did high quality (for the time) custom painting and decaling of other manufacturers' models, especially Athearn.  Here are some examples for sale ion EBay https://www.ebay.com/b/Kar-Line-Model-Railroads-and-Trains/180250/bn_1646428  I am not aware that they ever did a PS-1 but they might have.
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Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL

Tim O'Connor
 


KADEE makes the 1948 and 1950 PS-1 bodies you want. But I think that the C&O 1948 PS-1 box cars had AAR underframes
and not the later PS-1 underframes. They are noticeably different.

Kadee #5000 is the 1950-1953 body with 8 foot doors. Also #4997, #4998 prepainted box car red color. Dunno the kit # if there
is one -- but ANY Kadee box car can be turned into a kit pretty easily, since there is no adhesive.



On 10/11/2022 11:11 AM, Dave Wetterstroem wrote:

Has anyone made a list of what manufactures have made PS-1 boxcars in HO scale and what attributes each model has? 

Something like Kadee 40' PS-1 Boxcar 10 panel, 6' Youngstown Door etc. 
I am trying to build my fleet of C&O boxcars. I have the data on these, but don't know which model would be the closest for each series. I realize that in today's world, just because it was made, doesn't mean you will be able to find it, but it would be nice to see what options are available in a single list. 

Road Series Description Built date Quantity Built Quantity 1952 Door Opening Door Style Panels
C&O 15000-15999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Feb-48 1000 975 6' 7P Sup1 12
C&O 16000-16999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Dec-50 1000 2496 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 17000-17999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Sep-51 1000 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 18000-18499 PS-1 40' Boxcar Jun-52 500 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 18500-18999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Jun-52 500 500 8' 6P Sup1 10


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Tim O'Connor
 


WHOOPS ! Correction -- the Kadee cars you want are #5099, #5100, etc - They are the same car as the other one
but have RIVETED end sheets, which is correct for the C&O cars. This particular style of construction was popular with
southern railroads.


On 10/11/2022 2:58 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:


KADEE makes the 1948 and 1950 PS-1 bodies you want. But I think that the C&O 1948 PS-1 box cars had AAR underframes
and not the later PS-1 underframes. They are noticeably different.
Kadee #5000 is the 1950-1953 body with 8 foot doors. Also #4997, #4998 prepainted box car red color. Dunno the kit # if there
is one -- but ANY Kadee box car can be turned into a kit pretty easily, since there is no adhesive.


On 10/11/2022 11:11 AM, Dave Wetterstroem wrote:

Has anyone made a list of what manufactures have made PS-1 boxcars in HO scale and what attributes each model has? 

Something like Kadee 40' PS-1 Boxcar 10 panel, 6' Youngstown Door etc. 
I am trying to build my fleet of C&O boxcars. I have the data on these, but don't know which model would be the closest for each series. I realize that in today's world, just because it was made, doesn't mean you will be able to find it, but it would be nice to see what options are available in a single list. 

Road Series Description Built date Quantity Built Quantity 1952 Door Opening Door Style Panels
C&O 15000-15999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Feb-48 1000 975 6' 7P Sup1 12
C&O 16000-16999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Dec-50 1000 2496 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 17000-17999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Sep-51 1000 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 18000-18499 PS-1 40' Boxcar Jun-52 500 8' YSD-2 10
C&O 18500-18999 PS-1 40' Boxcar Jun-52 500 500 8' 6P Sup1 10


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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Sterling, Massachusetts
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