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Question about 40 ft. gondolas
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Only F&C produced the 41 foot "War Emergency" gondola -- in quotes because the T&NO bought a LOT of these after the war too. F&C makes the original car as well as the steel-sheathed versions which are correct for ACL and SP lines. Adam Chilcote now offers the Scullin LV trucks for the SP cars as well (3-D printed) Tim On 11/10/2022 4:51 PM, Kenneth Montero wrote:
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ed_mines
That first one (composite) was a standard standard steel design & Erie had them.There's a photo of an Erie car rebuilt with steel sides in the Kline/Cullotta book. |
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Richard Townsend
Mr. Redden,
I gather from your post about possibly 3D printing gondolas that you can do 3D design and printing. Assuming that's true I am wondering if you might be interested in doing a flatcar load for me. I've attached a photo of the piece I'm interested in; it's the part above the legs. Is this something you might be interested in helping me with? Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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From: mlredden1 <mlredden1@...> To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Sent: Sat, Nov 12, 2022 4:45 am Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Question about 40 ft. gondolas I contacted Jeff last night about working on 3D printing some IC gons. He sent me some info. If anyone has more drawings or photos they could send me off list that would be great.
Mike Redden
I concur with that, Jeff. IC had over 11,000 of those 40-ft comp gons and they went everywhere in coal service. I have encouraged a few manufacturers to make models of these cars but haven’t been successful…yet. John Golden 
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Richard Townsend
Sorry. That was supposed to go only to Mr. Redden. Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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From: Richard Townsend via groups.io <richtownsend@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Sat, Nov 12, 2022 6:48 pm Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Question about 40 ft. gondolas Mr. Redden,
I gather from your post about possibly 3D printing gondolas that you can do 3D design and printing. Assuming that's true I am wondering if you might be interested in doing a flatcar load for me. I've attached a photo of the piece I'm interested in; it's the part above the legs. Is this something you might be interested in helping me with?
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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From: mlredden1 <mlredden1@...> To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Sent: Sat, Nov 12, 2022 4:45 am Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Question about 40 ft. gondolas I contacted Jeff last night about working on 3D printing some IC gons. He sent me some info. If anyone has more drawings or photos they could send me off list that would be great.
Mike Redden
I concur with that, Jeff. IC had over 11,000 of those 40-ft comp gons and they went everywhere in coal service. I have encouraged a few manufacturers to make models of these cars but haven’t been successful…yet. John Golden |
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Clarence Zink
OK, Richard, no offence taken, but now you've piqued my interest. What sort of hydraulic press is that piece from? Have you got a picture of the entire machine?
I'm sure others are curious also. CRZ |
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Not a steam era photo, but the press in this photo is obviously well used so probably dates from the steam era. It would make a noteworthy load for a flat car. I think these CB&Q flats were nearly identical to the NP cars first offered in brass from W&R, and then from Aaron Gjermundsen as Northern Scale Models, and then from Speedwitch. On 11/13/2022 4:22 PM, Clarence Zink wrote: OK, Richard, no offence taken, but now you've piqued my interest. What sort of hydraulic press is that piece from? Have you got a picture of the entire machine? --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts 
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William Hirt
CB&Q Series 92400-92799. FM. 53' 6" Steel Flat Car. Class FM-14A. Built 1952 by CB&Q Havelock. I know someone who is looking for CB&Q decals that will do this car. He bought the resin kit at the St. Louis RPM this summer. He's been unsuccessful in finding any of the correct decals. Bill Hirt On 11/13/2022 3:30 PM, Tim O'Connor
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Jerry Hamsmith has decals not only for the FM-14, but for many other pieces of Burlington rolling stock. His decals are top notch! Rich Christie |
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William Hirt
I have Jerry's decals (and some of his flat car kits), but my friend wants them for the Chinese Red cars. Jerry's are for the mineral red cars. The lettering is quite different. Bill HIrt On 11/13/2022 8:12 PM, Rich C via
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Clarence Zink
That's a unique load for sure.
Thanks Tim! CRZ |
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Didn't Walthers do some NYC USRA Gons? Are they usable in some form for later modeling?
Victor Baird |
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I have some of the Sunshine 40 ft. cars. It seems that with many of these cars, you could just swap the decals for a different road and be accurate. Was the AAR 40 ft. gondola a common model for various roads?
I agree that if someone like Rapido would do the PRR 40 ft. gons, they would be snapped up. Maybe we can contact Rapido and prod them. They have done some great work other PRR specific cars including hoppers, flats and boxcars. Victor Baird |
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Kevin:
A number of HO kits have been available for various 40 ft. gons from Westerfield, F&G and Sunshine Models. But it would be nice for someone like Rapido to do some of these cars RTR. They have done a number of other PRR cars including boxcar, hoppers and flats. I would think that the PRR car would sell well. And IIRC, the Reading and CNJ had similar cars. Victor B. |
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I believe Walthers (ages ago) offered a composite gondola flat kit. Dunno if they were USRA or specific to NYC or not. On 11/9/2022 9:49 PM, reporterllc via groups.io wrote: Didn't Walthers do some NYC USRA Gons? Are they usable in some form for later modeling? --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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