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Railroad-Owned Poultry Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Railroad-Owned Poultry Cars

According to the book, Car Shop Practice, from the Board of Railway Mechanical Officials and the Railway Training Institute (published in 1925), there were 24 railroad-owned poultry cars in service in 1924.

Does anyone have a 1924 ORER that would tell us which railroads owned these poultry cars?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

James SANDIFER
 

I am tied up for the weekend, but I remember Southern was one of them. I seem to remember that plans for theirs were published in one of the Freight Car cyclopedias.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

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Railroad-Owned Poultry Cars

According to the book, Car Shop Practice, from the Board of Railway Mechanical Officials and the Railway Training Institute (published in 1925), there were 24 railroad-owned poultry cars in service in 1924.

Does anyone have a 1924 ORER that would tell us which railroads owned these poultry cars?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Ian Cranstone
 

On Jun 26, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Railroad-Owned Poultry Cars
According to the book, Car Shop Practice, from the Board of Railway Mechanical Officials and the Railway Training Institute (published in 1925), there were 24 railroad-owned poultry cars in service in 1924.
Does anyone have a 1924 ORER that would tell us which railroads owned these poultry cars?
Four poultry cars were listed by Canadian roads in 1924, apparently all converted from other cars circa 1923:

CN 149900-149901
CP 259000-259001

CP would add four more cars in the mid-1930s (CP 259100-259103, which were renumbered 272200-272203 in 1947).

Ian CranstoneOsgoode, Ontario, Canada
lamontc@...
http://freightcars.nakina.net

Jake Schaible
 

Just so happens I have a Dec '24 ORER hard copy, but unsure the best way to find what you are looking for - short of going through the entire book page by page.  Bought it some time back, but have since shifted my layout era to Spring of '27 so don't need or use it.  It's available for sale, if interested.  (Loose & chip cover, but binding otherwise tight and pages are great and flexible.) 

-J

earlyrail
 

Well in the Oct 1923 ORER he Southern had 24 SP (Poultry) cars
series 44875 - 44899
I recall that one of the northeastern roads had a few, but can not locate then on a quick seatch

Howard Garner

Douglas Harding
 

Bob the only railroad owned poultry cars I am aware of are evidenced from a
photo, CP 259102 and a drawing, Michigan Central 60001 (a Continental Live
Poultry car). The Southern Historical Society has drawing dated 1906 for a
poultry car, it does not list a number series. Kristin Dummler, in her
clinic, listed the following railroads owning poultry cars: Michigan
Central, Lehigh Valley, Southern, Lackawanna, Norfolk and Western, and more.

I have a list of poultry cars based upon photos. The above CP car is the
only photo of a railroad owned car on the list. I don't have a list of
railroad owned Poultry cars, nor do I know of one. Kirstin might have one.

1924 is the year that Palace Poultry Car Co was formed, creating a
competitor for the near monopoly the Live Poultry Transit Co had at the
time. PPCC had 251 cars in 1924 vs 2000 the Live Poultry Transit Co had. The
24 cars reported in the book you cited represents 10% of the PPCC fleet and
approximately 1% of all poultry cars in existence. The maximum number of
poultry cars was a little over 2800 cars in the late 20s. North American Car
acquired the PPCC fleet in 1926, and then acquired LPT in 1930.

There were a few other companies with poultry cars, most prior to 1910 and
most only had a few cars. By 1924 Live Poultry Transit was the dominate
carrier.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org

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Railroad-Owned Poultry Cars
According to the book, Car Shop Practice, from the Board of Railway
Mechanical Officials and the Railway Training Institute (published in 1925),
there were 24 railroad-owned poultry cars in service in 1924.
Does anyone have a 1924 ORER that would tell us which railroads owned
these poultry cars?

Four poultry cars were listed by Canadian roads in 1924, apparently all
converted from other cars circa 1923:

CN 149900-149901
CP 259000-259001

CP would add four more cars in the mid-1930s (CP 259100-259103, which were
renumbered 272200-272203 in 1947).

Ian CranstoneOsgoode, Ontario, Canada
lamontc@...
http://freightcars.nakina.net

James SANDIFER
 

Some railroads purchased poultry cars. The 1906 ORER includes the Delaware, Lackawanna & Western with 50, the Pittsburg, Cincinnati, Chicago & St. Louis with 25, and the Columbus, Sandusky & Hocking with an unstated number. The Southern had 57 in 1917 of their own design and the Pennsylvania Railroad had 13. Canadian National had two in the late 20s. Canadian Pacific had two cars in 1930, four in 1945.

 

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

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Railroad-Owned Poultry Cars

According to the book, Car Shop Practice, from the Board of Railway Mechanical Officials and the Railway Training Institute (published in 1925), there were 24 railroad-owned poultry cars in service in 1924.

Does anyone have a 1924 ORER that would tell us which railroads owned these poultry cars?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

James Brewer
 

I did a search on the N&WHS archives (nwhs.org).  N&W had Class SC poultry cars but there are no photos or general arrangement drawings in the data base.  

Jim Brewer