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Brian Carlson
As they note, this is just the MTH PS-1. Since we already have several better options Kadee, Intermountain, Tangent, Accurail and others it was a curious release to me.
On Nov 14, 2022, at 3:41 PM, Curt Fortenberry <curtfortenberry@...> wrote:
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Tim O'Connor
Incredible, in my opinion -- It's not hard to find 100% accurate
KADEE models for $20 or less and all of the
Kadee cars (except the ridiculous special run collector cars)
are correctly lettered and numbered. I have quite
a few I plan to sell off because they don't fit my time period
anymore.
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Tim, you imply that the Scale Trains PS-1 aren’t 100% accurate, correct? I could use a few PS-1 boxcars lettered for Eastern roads, and I’ve been holding off planning to buy Kadee. If these are accurate, I
may get a couple of cars.
Nelson Moyer
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 2:48 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar
Incredible, in my opinion -- It's not hard to find 100% accurate KADEE models for $20 or less and all of the
Kadee cars (except the ridiculous special run collector cars) are correctly lettered and numbered. I have quite
a few I plan to sell off because they don't fit my time period anymore.
On 11/14/2022 3:41 PM, Curt Fortenberry wrote:
Scaletrains made the announcement of their kit classic PS-1 boxcar. The artwork dates are later 40's to early 50's.
https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/ho-scale-freight-cars/kit-classics-ho-scale-p-s-40-boxcar.html
Curt Fortenberry
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<< Scaletrains made the announcement of their kit classic PS-1 boxcar. The artwork dates are later 40's to early 50's The MN&S car is not for this time period, it is 60's and later
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Steve and Barb Hile
I was a bit surprised by the Scale Trains PS-1's as it seems like they are intended to be the Blue Box cars of the 2020's with everything cast on. I took a couple of pictures with my phone. I hope the come through embedded in the text, like this.
They also displayed test shot of PFE Reefer
and a Gondola, that I wondered if it were Pennsy. I apparently failed to get a side view.
Although I was talking to Shane Wilson, he would only allow that these were test shots for future products a ways out in the future. I thought the PFE reefer might be a plywood side car, but he said that it was steel car.
Just now, it occurs to me that these all might be some ex-MTH cars coming into the Scale Trains line. Didn't MTH have a PS-1, PFE Reefer and a gondola too?
Steve Hile
-----Original Message----- From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Nov 14, 2022 3:01 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar
Tim, you imply that the Scale Trains PS-1 aren’t 100% accurate, correct? I could use a few PS-1 boxcars lettered for Eastern roads, and I’ve been holding off planning to buy Kadee. If these are accurate, I may get a couple of cars.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 2:48 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar
Incredible, in my opinion -- It's not hard to find 100% accurate KADEE models for $20 or less and all of the
Kadee cars (except the ridiculous special run collector cars) are correctly lettered and numbered. I have quite
a few I plan to sell off because they don't fit my time period anymore.
On 11/14/2022 3:41 PM, Curt Fortenberry wrote:
Scaletrains made the announcement of their kit classic PS-1 boxcar. The artwork dates are later 40's to early 50's.
https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/ho-scale-freight-cars/kit-classics-ho-scale-p-s-40-boxcar.html
Curt Fortenberry
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Brian Carlson
Can confirm the reefer is also ex MTH. MTH had what they called a 70 ton mill gon. It was similiar to Bethlehem and Greenville cars, but I never looked at it too closely since Proto and tangent had those covered.
They didn’t have a 40 ft gon. Be interesting to see the side.
On Nov 14, 2022, at 7:20 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
I was a bit surprised by the Scale Trains PS-1's as it seems like they are intended to be the Blue Box cars of the 2020's with everything cast on. I took a couple of pictures with my phone. I hope the come through embedded in the text, like this.
They also displayed test shot of PFE Reefer
and a Gondola, that I wondered if it were Pennsy. I apparently failed to get a side view.
Although I was talking to Shane Wilson, he would only allow that these were test shots for future products a ways out in the future. I thought the PFE reefer might be a plywood side car, but he said that it was steel car.
Just now, it occurs to me that these all might be some ex-MTH cars coming into the Scale Trains line. Didn't MTH have a PS-1, PFE Reefer and a gondola too?
Steve Hile
, November 14, 2022 2:48 PM
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no photos :-(
Bill Keene Irvine, CA
On Nov 14, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Steve and Barb Hile < shile@...> wrote:
I was a bit surprised by the Scale Trains PS-1's as it seems like they are intended to be the Blue Box cars of the 2020's with everything cast on. I took a couple of pictures with my phone. I hope the come through embedded in the text, like this.
They also displayed test shot of PFE Reefer
and a Gondola, that I wondered if it were Pennsy. I apparently failed to get a side view.
Although I was talking to Shane Wilson, he would only allow that these were test shots for future products a ways out in the future. I thought the PFE reefer might be a plywood side car, but he said that it was steel car. Just now, it occurs to me that these all might be some ex-MTH cars coming into the Scale Trains line. Didn't MTH have a PS-1, PFE Reefer and a gondola too? Steve Hile
-----Original Message-----
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Nov 14, 2022 3:01 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar
Tim, you imply that the Scale Trains PS-1 aren’t 100% accurate, correct? I could use a few PS-1 boxcars lettered for Eastern roads, and I’ve been holding off planning to buy Kadee. If these are accurate, I may get a couple of cars.
Nelson Moyer
Incredible, in my opinion -- It's not hard to find 100% accurate KADEE models for $20 or less and all of the
Kadee cars (except the ridiculous special run collector cars) are correctly lettered and numbered. I have quite
a few I plan to sell off because they don't fit my time period anymore.
On 11/14/2022 3:41 PM, Curt Fortenberry wrote:
Scaletrains made the announcement of their kit classic PS-1 boxcar. The artwork dates are later 40's to early 50's.
https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/ho-scale-freight-cars/kit-classics-ho-scale-p-s-40-boxcar.html
Curt Fortenberry
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Brian Carlson
Looking at the pics again from Steve they came they stacked and not embedded so the gon looked the same length as the reefer. If it is longer it’s ex MTH tooling.
On Nov 14, 2022, at 7:33 PM, Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361@...> wrote:
Can confirm the reefer is also ex MTH. MTH had what they called a 70 ton mill gon. It was similiar to Bethlehem and Greenville cars, but I never looked at it too closely since Proto and tangent had those covered.
They didn’t have a 40 ft gon. Be interesting to see the side. On Nov 14, 2022, at 7:20 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
I was a bit surprised by the Scale Trains PS-1's as it seems like they are intended to be the Blue Box cars of the 2020's with everything cast on. I took a couple of pictures with my phone. I hope the come through embedded in the text, like this.
They also displayed test shot of PFE Reefer
and a Gondola, that I wondered if it were Pennsy. I apparently failed to get a side view.
Although I was talking to Shane Wilson, he would only allow that these were test shots for future products a ways out in the future. I thought the PFE reefer might be a plywood side car, but he said that it was steel car.
Just now, it occurs to me that these all might be some ex-MTH cars coming into the Scale Trains line. Didn't MTH have a PS-1, PFE Reefer and a gondola too?
Steve Hile
, November 14, 2022 2:48 PM
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Steve and Barb Hile
The photos are available on the groups.io web site. Take the link at the bottom of the message.
Note that the gondola was not a 40 footer, it was a 52 foot one.
Steve Hile
-----Original Message----- From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Nov 14, 2022 6:35 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar
no photos :-(
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA
On Nov 14, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Steve and Barb Hile < shile@...> wrote:
I was a bit surprised by the Scale Trains PS-1's as it seems like they are intended to be the Blue Box cars of the 2020's with everything cast on. I took a couple of pictures with my phone. I hope the come through embedded in the text, like this.
They also displayed test shot of PFE Reefer
and a Gondola, that I wondered if it were Pennsy. I apparently failed to get a side view.
Although I was talking to Shane Wilson, he would only allow that these were test shots for future products a ways out in the future. I thought the PFE reefer might be a plywood side car, but he said that it was steel car.
Just now, it occurs to me that these all might be some ex-MTH cars coming into the Scale Trains line. Didn't MTH have a PS-1, PFE Reefer and a gondola too?
Steve Hile
-----Original Message-----
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Nov 14, 2022 3:01 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar
Tim, you imply that the Scale Trains PS-1 aren’t 100% accurate, correct? I could use a few PS-1 boxcars lettered for Eastern roads, and I’ve been holding off planning to buy Kadee. If these are accurate, I may get a couple of cars.
Nelson Moyer
Incredible, in my opinion -- It's not hard to find 100% accurate KADEE models for $20 or less and all of the
Kadee cars (except the ridiculous special run collector cars) are correctly lettered and numbered. I have quite
a few I plan to sell off because they don't fit my time period anymore.
On 11/14/2022 3:41 PM, Curt Fortenberry wrote:
Scaletrains made the announcement of their kit classic PS-1 boxcar. The artwork dates are later 40's to early 50's.
https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/ho-scale-freight-cars/kit-classics-ho-scale-p-s-40-boxcar.html
Curt Fortenberry
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Douglas Harding
Bill they showed up in my email box. Look at the very bottom of the message you received; you may find links to the images. They are also in the online message. You can see them there.
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Keene via groups.io Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 6:34 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar no photos :-(
On Nov 14, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote: I was a bit surprised by the Scale Trains PS-1's as it seems like they are intended to be the Blue Box cars of the 2020's with everything cast on. I took a couple of pictures with my phone. I hope the come through embedded in the text, like this. They also displayed test shot of PFE Reefer and a Gondola, that I wondered if it were Pennsy. I apparently failed to get a side view. Although I was talking to Shane Wilson, he would only allow that these were test shots for future products a ways out in the future. I thought the PFE reefer might be a plywood side car, but he said that it was steel car. Just now, it occurs to me that these all might be some ex-MTH cars coming into the Scale Trains line. Didn't MTH have a PS-1, PFE Reefer and a gondola too? -----Original Message-----
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Nov 14, 2022 3:01 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Scaletrains HO PS-1 40' boxcar Tim, you imply that the Scale Trains PS-1 aren’t 100% accurate, correct? I could use a few PS-1 boxcars lettered for Eastern roads, and I’ve been holding off planning to buy Kadee. If these are accurate, I may get a couple of cars. Nelson Moyer
Incredible, in my opinion -- It's not hard to find 100% accurate KADEE models for $20 or less and all of the
Kadee cars (except the ridiculous special run collector cars) are correctly lettered and numbered. I have quite
a few I plan to sell off because they don't fit my time period anymore.
On 11/14/2022 3:41 PM, Curt Fortenberry wrote:
Scaletrains made the announcement of their kit classic PS-1 boxcar. The artwork dates are later 40's to early 50's.
https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/ho-scale-freight-cars/kit-classics-ho-scale-p-s-40-boxcar.html
Curt Fortenberry
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Sterling, Massachusetts
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On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 04:20 PM, Steve and Barb Hile wrote: Although I was talking to Shane Wilson, he would only allow that these were test shots for future products a ways out in the future. I thought the PFE reefer might be a plywood side car, but he said that it was steel car.
The PFE reefer is most definitely the plywood side -24 car. Steve, your excellent posted photo very clearly shows the under frame of the wood cars. Also the panel count is for the -24 car.
Dick Harley covered these cars on his Smugmug site:
https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/PFEModels/PFE-Wood-Ice-Reefer-Models/R-30-24/
MTH described them wrong and it looks like Scale Trains will continue the tradition.
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Tim, when you're ready to sell, I'll give you $20 each for any HO scale C&O kadee cars.
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Tim O'Connor
Steve
I can instantly see that the MILW 35002 is a foobie without even
knowing anything about the prototype -- The
car body is OBVIOUSLY a 1953+ PS-1 and the built date is 1951.
Doh. :-)
On 11/14/2022 7:41 PM, Steve and Barb Hile wrote:
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groups.io web site. Take the link at the bottom of the
message.
Note that the gondola was not a 40
footer, it was a 52 foot one.
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Let me see if I understand this correctly. Secondhand tooling that wasn't all that great the first time,foobie paint
schemes AND reserve now with delivery 9 months out? Now that's a business model...
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How do you guys expect them to get a return on their investment? They didn’t plunk down the dollars to let the tooling sit around and gather dust. Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
On Nov 16, 2022, at 5:20 PM, lrkdbn via groups.io <lrkdbn@...> wrote:
Let me see if I understand this correctly. Secondhand tooling that wasn't all that great the first time,foobie paint
schemes AND reserve now with delivery 9 months out? Now that's a business model...
Larry King
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Dave
I surprised myself - I have only one C&O Kadee model - a 50
foot box car ! My other C&O models are all kits - or hopper
cars.
I have a bunch of C&O hopper car models, including a bunch
of brass cars (4 or 5 I think).
On 11/15/2022 12:50 AM, Dave Wetterstroem wrote:
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Tim, when you're ready
to sell, I'll give you $20 each for any HO scale C&O kadee
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Oops, I'm sorry folks. Meant to go directly to Dave.
On 11/18/2022 5:32 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
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Dave
I surprised myself - I have only one C&O Kadee model - a
50 foot box car ! My other C&O models are all kits - or
hopper cars.
I have a bunch of C&O hopper car models, including a bunch
of brass cars (4 or 5 I think).
On 11/15/2022 12:50 AM, Dave Wetterstroem wrote:
Tim, when you're
ready to sell, I'll give you $20 each for any HO scale C&O
kadee cars.
Tim O'Connor
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