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Schoen and Pressed Steel early hoppers

Eric Hansmann
 

A new freight car review is available. It covers the Schoen and Pressed Steel early hopper car production. Here's a link to the blog post announcement.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

David
 

Ahh, this is right up my alley. Notes and comments follow:

The initial contract to Schoen Pressed Steel was for 200 cars to Schoen's design (5501-5700) and 400 cars to Carnegie's design (5701-6100), with another 400 Schoen-design cars (6101-6500) added on later.
PB&LE 6501-8100 were followup orders of the Schoen 28-foot design in 1899-1901.

There were at least five primary variants of the Type 1 (fishbelly side sill) hopper:
28-foot inside length: PB&LE orders
29-foot inside length: P&LE 11900-11999, PMcK&Y 13500-13549, P&W 4000-4449 (to B&O 25550-25999)
30-foot inside length with 9'6" inside width: various orders
30-foot inside length with 8' 8.5" inside width: B&O N-8 44000-44999 (10'3 eaves height), B&O N-9 20000-23999, 120000-123999 (10'8" eaves height); Pittsburg and Buffalo Co. 1000-1019 (10'8" eaves height)
31'6" inside length: PRR class GL and copies

The Type 2 design can trace back to the five PRR class GM gondolas of 1898. Though not true hoppers, the side construction was similar in a number of ways.
Erie 49000-49999 may be the first PSC straight-sill hoppers, as period references describe other early orders for straight-sill hoppers as "Erie type".
C&A 25000-25009 were 31'6" inside length cars built by PSC circa 1901. These may be PPR class GL copies, or something else completely.

This is a list of the Type 2 cars that I compiled a while back from Eric Neubauer's Pressed Steel builder's list:

1000 Erie 49000-49999 2-3/00
 150 BR&P 14000-14149 00
 400 P&LE 10500-10899 00
 200 PMcK&Y 13550-13749 00
 150 WNY&P 10100-10249 5-9/00
 150 CLS&E 9301-9599o 00  to EJ&E ca 1914
 300 AS&W 1601-2199o 00  to N&SS
 100 DL&W 69900-69999 00
  25 P&RF 3001-3025 00 to MEC 2650-2674
1000 P&R 80000-80999 6-7/01
1000 CNJ 48000-48999 3/01  9'10eh
 150 C&A 25010-25159 01
1000 DL&W 72000-72999 8/02
 500 GT 73000-73499 7-8/03
1000 P&LE 10900-11899 04

   1 UP 11500 3/05 ACF lot 3290

 400 SP 90900-91299
 100 UP 11501-11600
 100 OSL 20601-20700
all Cambria Steel Car 3-5/07

 120 UP 11601-11720
  50 O&W 50000-50049 (Oregon & Washington) to OWR&N 60870-60919
all Cambria Steel Car 1909

 100 SPdeM 14036-14135 PSC 1910


These may be Type 2 hoppers, but I have no hard information:

  20 [PPGCo 101-120 00 PPGX]
  50 [RGW 1227-1276 00 to D&RG 18224-18271 ca 1914]
300 [OSL 6300-6599 11/00 to 20300-20599, 30294-30584]
  10 [ASSCo.14+ 01? American Sheet Trust; to AS&W?]
  70 [MACo 700+792 70 in 01? Michigan Alkali]
  10 [LI&SCo 200-209 01?  9'10eh]
  50 [USCo. 1-50 Union Steel Co. 01?]
  25 [P&RF 3026-3050 02 to MEC 2675-2699]
  20 [MACo 700+792 20 in 02? Michigan Alkali]
  20 [MACo 826-845 04]

David Thompson