Somewhat off topic - GE 44-tonner phases
Rapido recently announced some GE 44-tonners in HO. Their ad shows phases Ic, II and III.
Is there a way to tell, perhaps by serial number or date, what phase a particular locomotive is? I found a couple of references, including this one --
http://www.thedieselshop.us/GE_44Ton.HTML
which shows locomotives by owner, serial number and date built.
Ron Merrick
On Jan 30, 2023, at 3:22 PM, mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:
This is a question contemporary with the focus of the STMFC group, and one whose subjects would have pushed around a lot of STMFC.
Rapido recently announced some GE 44-tonners in HO. Their ad shows phases Ic, II and III.
Is there a way to tell, perhaps by serial number or date, what phase a particular locomotive is? I found a couple of references, including this one --
http://www.thedieselshop.us/GE_44Ton.HTML
which shows locomotives by owner, serial number and date built.
Ron Merrick
Considering my vested interests, it is a shame that they didn’t do the Whitcomb/Davenport that actually paved the way for the GE’s.
(See the Feb RMC – shameless plug.)
Steve Hile :>)
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2023 6:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Somewhat off topic - GE 44-tonner phases
X200 South had articles defining and covering all phases of the 44 Tonners. So far Rapido is only showing the one under frame; another frame would have to be tooled to catch more phases (like the ones that the CB&Q had).
Charlie Vlk
On Jan 30, 2023, at 3:22 PM, mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:
This is a question contemporary with the focus of the STMFC group, and one whose subjects would have pushed around a lot of STMFC.
Rapido recently announced some GE 44-tonners in HO. Their ad shows phases Ic, II and III.
Is there a way to tell, perhaps by serial number or date, what phase a particular locomotive is? I found a couple of references, including this one --
http://www.thedieselshop.us/GE_44Ton.HTML
which shows locomotives by owner, serial number and date built.
Ron Merrick
Considering my vested interests, it is a shame that they didn’t do the Whitcomb/Davenport that actually paved the way for the GE’s.
(See the Feb RMC – shameless plug.)
Steve Hile :>)
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2023 6:57 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Somewhat off topic - GE 44-tonner phases
X200 South had articles defining and covering all phases of the 44 Tonners. So far Rapido is only showing the one under frame; another frame would have to be tooled to catch more phases (like the ones that the CB&Q had).
Charlie Vlk
On Jan 30, 2023, at 3:22 PM, mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:
This is a question contemporary with the focus of the STMFC group, and one whose subjects would have pushed around a lot of STMFC.
Rapido recently announced some GE 44-tonners in HO. Their ad shows phases Ic, II and III.
Is there a way to tell, perhaps by serial number or date, what phase a particular locomotive is? I found a couple of references, including this one --
http://www.thedieselshop.us/GE_44Ton.HTML
which shows locomotives by owner, serial number and date built.
Ron Merrick
On Jan 30, 2023, at 7:21 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
Considering my vested interests, it is a shame that they didn’t do the Whitcomb/Davenport that actually paved the way for the GE’s.
(See the Feb RMC – shameless plug.)
Steve Hile :>)
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2023 6:57 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Somewhat off topic - GE 44-tonner phases
X200 South had articles defining and covering all phases of the 44 Tonners. So far Rapido is only showing the one under frame; another frame would have to be tooled to catch more phases (like the ones that the CB&Q had).
Charlie Vlk
On Jan 30, 2023, at 3:22 PM, mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:
This is a question contemporary with the focus of the STMFC group, and one whose subjects would have pushed around a lot of STMFC.
Rapido recently announced some GE 44-tonners in HO. Their ad shows phases Ic, II and III.
Is there a way to tell, perhaps by serial number or date, what phase a particular locomotive is? I found a couple of references, including this one --
http://www.thedieselshop.us/GE_44Ton.HTML
which shows locomotives by owner, serial number and date built.
Ron Merrick
Randy's Layout Blog: 44-tonners Part IV (newbritainstation.com)
Rapido is releasing Phase Ic, III, and IVa variations. There were 104 Phase IVa units, and these are the same as the Bachmann version. Maybe I'll write up all of those too but didn't have the time now.
Randy
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Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
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Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
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The Q only had one Phase Ic diesel acquired from a third party and never lettered for CB&Q. Too bad Rapido isn’t offering the first phase, as CB&Q 9103-9107 were purchased in two lots immediately after the GE 44 ton diesels were first released. The underframe isn’t the only issue when it comes to modeling the Q 44 ton diesels. However, I could be persuaded to overlook the truth and paint an undecorated phase Ic in Q livery, as it’s light years closer to prototype than the Bachmann 44 ton diesel. Rapido is only offering three undecorated bodies, Ic, III and IV, but there are supposed to be two Ic body versions, one this and one without number boards, and the order number listed doesn’t specify which version it applies to. I emailed Rapido about this issue, but no response yet. The version without the letterboard is the Q version of the Ic acquired from the third party later.
Nelson Moyer
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2023 6:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Somewhat off topic - GE 44-tonner phases
X200 South had articles defining and covering all phases of the 44 Tonners. So far Rapido is only showing the one under frame; another frame would have to be tooled to catch more phases (like the ones that the CB&Q had).
Rapido recently announced some GE 44-tonners in HO. Their ad shows phases Ic, II and III.Minor correction/difference - the display at Springfield said "Phase Ic, III and IV"
Ron Merrick
When I asked, they said the tooling was modular enough that they could do other phases (eventually)
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Ken Akerboom
http://bmfreightcars.com/
And I am wondering – any place the X2200 articles can be found listing the differences in each phase and/or dates of production?
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Ken Akerboom
http://bmfreightcars.com/
Piko web site shows a 65 tonner.
https://www.piko-america.com/collections/ho-scale-locomotives
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Charlie Duckworth
Omaha, Ne.
It’s not a 44-tonner.
Thanks!
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Brian Ehni
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Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 3:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Somewhat off topic - GE 44-tonner phases
Piko America is coming out with a Whitcomb locomotive.
Mark Rossiter