Somewhat off topic - GE 44-tonner phases
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mopacfirst
This is a question contemporary with the focus of the STMFC group, and one whose subjects would have pushed around a lot of STMFC.
Rapido recently announced some GE 44-tonners in HO. Their ad shows phases Ic, II and III. Is there a way to tell, perhaps by serial number or date, what phase a particular locomotive is? I found a couple of references, including this one -- http://www.thedieselshop.us/GE_44Ton.HTML which shows locomotives by owner, serial number and date built. Ron Merrick |
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Charlie Vlk
X200 South had articles defining and covering all phases of the 44 Tonners. So far Rapido is only showing the one under frame; another frame would have to be tooled to catch more phases (like the ones that the CB&Q had).
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Charlie Vlk On Jan 30, 2023, at 3:22 PM, mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:
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Considering my vested interests, it is a shame that they didn’t do the Whitcomb/Davenport that actually paved the way for the GE’s.
(See the Feb RMC – shameless plug.)
Steve Hile :>)
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2023 6:57 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Somewhat off topic - GE 44-tonner phases
X200 South had articles defining and covering all phases of the 44 Tonners. So far Rapido is only showing the one under frame; another frame would have to be tooled to catch more phases (like the ones that the CB&Q had). Charlie Vlk
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Curt Fortenberry
From another group. Extra 2200 South magazine, issues 51 and 52 from 1975. Curt Fortenberry |
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For me, its the wrong size; i need an 80 tonner. nonetheless i’m tempted
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Rob On Jan 30, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote: Considering my vested interests, it is a shame that they didn’t do the Whitcomb/Davenport that actually paved the way for the GE’s.
(See the Feb RMC – shameless plug.)
Steve Hile :>)
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
X200 South had articles defining and covering all phases of the 44 Tonners. So far Rapido is only showing the one under frame; another frame would have to be tooled to catch more phases (like the ones that the CB&Q had). Charlie Vlk
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mopacfirst
Thanks for the lead on X2200South. Next week I'll be home and I can check mine.
And yes, actually I'd have more use for either a Whitcomb or a Davenport but I'll take what I can get. Fortunately my MP prototypes were painted black, since I'd be painting them anyway. Ron Merrick |
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I read your article in RMC. Very nice to see the work behind the stunning model I saw last year at Cocoa Beach. Now, I want one, too.
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Thanks! Brian Ehni (Sent from my iPhone) On Jan 30, 2023, at 7:21 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
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Randy Hammill
Here, I've compiled a list of the Phase Ic and III locomotives, including serial number ranges, to help out:
Randy's Layout Blog: 44-tonners Part IV (newbritainstation.com) Rapido is releasing Phase Ic, III, and IVa variations. There were 104 Phase IVa units, and these are the same as the Bachmann version. Maybe I'll write up all of those too but didn't have the time now. Randy -- — Randy Hammill Prototype Junction http://prototypejunction.com Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954 http://newbritainstation.com |
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Nelson Moyer
The Q only had one Phase Ic diesel acquired from a third party and never lettered for CB&Q. Too bad Rapido isn’t offering the first phase, as CB&Q 9103-9107 were purchased in two lots immediately after the GE 44 ton diesels were first released. The underframe isn’t the only issue when it comes to modeling the Q 44 ton diesels. However, I could be persuaded to overlook the truth and paint an undecorated phase Ic in Q livery, as it’s light years closer to prototype than the Bachmann 44 ton diesel. Rapido is only offering three undecorated bodies, Ic, III and IV, but there are supposed to be two Ic body versions, one this and one without number boards, and the order number listed doesn’t specify which version it applies to. I emailed Rapido about this issue, but no response yet. The version without the letterboard is the Q version of the Ic acquired from the third party later.
Nelson Moyer
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Sent: Monday, January 30, 2023 6:57 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Somewhat off topic - GE 44-tonner phases
X200 South had articles defining and covering all phases of the 44 Tonners. So far Rapido is only showing the one under frame; another frame would have to be tooled to catch more phases (like the ones that the CB&Q had).
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akerboomk
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 01:21 PM, mopacfirst wrote:
Rapido recently announced some GE 44-tonners in HO. Their ad shows phases Ic, II and III.Minor correction/difference - the display at Springfield said "Phase Ic, III and IV" When I asked, they said the tooling was modular enough that they could do other phases (eventually) -- Ken Akerboom http://bmfreightcars.com/ |
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akerboomk
And I am wondering – any place the X2200 articles can be found listing the differences in each phase and/or dates of production?
-- Ken Akerboom http://bmfreightcars.com/ |
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Mark Rossiter
Piko America is coming out with a Whitcomb locomotive. Mark Rossiter |
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Piko web site shows a 65 tonner.
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It’s not a 44-tonner.
Thanks!
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Mark Rossiter <mrossiter327@...>
Piko America is coming out with a Whitcomb locomotive.
Mark Rossiter |
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Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
Mark,
It is a well-done model, although the wheels don’t appear to conform to RP-25 (I’ve already gotten one). It is a model of the US Army Transportation Corps switcher built for use in the UK and Europe during and after WWII.
Jim van Gaasbeek Irvine, CA
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Scott
An early model 80 tonner with long frame would be awesome but since the railroads didn't really use them I doubt it would happen. Plus the 80 tonners have slightly longer truck wheel base and I believe larger wheels then the 44 ton so they can't reuse the trucks.
Scott McDonald |
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