SP A50-6


Tom Lawler
 

Hi all,

I am building an F&C kit 6560 SP A50-6. No information about the prototype in the kit. I looked to see if I could find these cars in my 7/50 ORER. It was not obvious if they are there. So my questions:

Were these running in 7/50?
Did some have K brakes (provided with the kit)?
What were the series of numbers for the cars?

TIA for any assistance.

Regards,

Tom


Tony Thompson
 

Tom Lawler wrote:

I am building an F&C kit 6560 SP A50-6. No information about the prototype in the kit. I looked to see if I could find these cars in my 7/50 ORER. It was not obvious if they are there. So my questions:

Were these running in 7/50?
Did some have K brakes (provided with the kit)?
What were the series of numbers for the cars?
SP series were 66800-67999 and 68592-68654 (latter group transferred from T&NO in 1936). There were also some T&NO cars if you want that. In 1950, there remained 783 of the Pacific Lines cars and 312 of the T&NO cars.
Conversions to AB brakes were gradual, still in progress in 1950. I could supply car numbers for either case if you want.

Tony Thompson
tony@...


al_brown03
 

The following info is from Thompson, "SP Freight Cars vol 3", pp51-79. 

(1) Of the original 2000, 1095 were running in 1950. The numbers in the book, Table 4-3, match those in the 7/50 ORER. 
(2) Only four cars remained in 1955. Since K brakes were outlawed effective '53, I suspect the cars were retired rather than refit them with AB brakes. In answer to your question, I'm guessing but I would bet "yes". 
(3) SP 66800-67999, T&NO 39660-39959 and 58400-58462. 

Hth,

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


al_brown03
 

Oops, didn't see Tony's answer. I defer to him.


Tony Thompson
 

(1) Of the original 2000, 1095 were running in 1950.
There were only 1500 originally, 1200 for Pacific Lines.

Tony


Eric Hansmann
 

I enjoyed building one of these kits a few years ago. I built it for the original as-built appearance as I model 1926. I also used a Protocraft decal set that is top notch. 

The car was featured in this blog post. 

On Aug 7, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Tom Lawler <tjlawler@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I am building an F&C kit 6560 SP A50-6. No information about the prototype in the kit. I looked to see if I could find these cars in my 7/50 ORER. It was not obvious if they are there. So my questions:

Were these running in 7/50?
Did some have K brakes (provided with the kit)?
What were the series of numbers for the cars?

TIA for any assistance.

Regards,

Tom






WILLIAM PARDIE
 

tjlawler@crestview cable.com

SP A-50-6

Hi Tom-:

Hope all is well with you. I just got home from the Collinsville meet.  It was the first time I traveled in over two years..

This car definitely lasted into the 50's-  I have (somewhere) a good drawing of thss car which I will forward..  I don't think that I have ever seen a photo of this car without K brakes.  Excellent decals were done by Ted Culotta (Now from the guy in Canada) and Protocraft.  Ted also covered rhe car in one of his Essential Freight Car articles.

Bill

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Tom Lawler <tjlawler@...>
Date: 8/7/22 1:26 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: Steam Era Freightcars <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] SP A50-6

Hi all,

I am building an F&C kit 6560 SP A50-6. No information about the prototype in the kit. I looked to see if I could find these cars in my 7/50 ORER. It was not obvious if they are there. So my questions:

Were these running in 7/50?
Did some have K brakes (provided with the kit)?
What were the series of numbers for the cars?

TIA for any assistance.

Regards,

Tom






Tim O'Connor
 


A number of the A-50-6 box cars (as well as some 40 foot single sheathed cars) were converted into "hog fuel" cars
(without roofs) in the 1950's. In 1959 there were still 222 of these cars listed as AAR type LP in the ORER. There were
several design variations.

Tim O'Connor


On 8/7/2022 7:53 PM, al_brown03 wrote:
The following info is from Thompson, "SP Freight Cars vol 3", pp51-79. 

(1) Of the original 2000, 1095 were running in 1950. The numbers in the book, Table 4-3, match those in the 7/50 ORER. 
(2) Only four cars remained in 1955. Since K brakes were outlawed effective '53, I suspect the cars were retired rather than refit them with AB brakes. In answer to your question, I'm guessing but I would bet "yes". 
(3) SP 66800-67999, T&NO 39660-39959 and 58400-58462. 

Hth,

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Charlie Duckworth
 

Tom
This is one of the best kits F&C did.  Here’s a write up I did on building one. 

http://blog.resincarworks.com/southern-pacific-50-a50-6-a50-5-1-12-door-boxcar/
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Ray Hutchison
 

The legos are a permanent part of the build?

(It looks like they must be)


Earl Tuson
 

FWIW, Pre-size Model Specialties offers a cast urethane kit for the A-50-6 in S-scale now:

http://pre-size.com/products/SscaleFreight_CarsPS593.php

Earl Tuson