Speas Company 50ft car question.


Scott
 

Hello,

Does anybody have any any information on the car in the link below?  I know Speas was a vinegar company in Kansas City.  Was this a more modern vinegar car with tanks in it?  The car appears to be aluminum.  Possibly just painted silver.  I cant zoom in enough to get any build dates off of it.

Speas Company Vinegar car

Thanks
Scott McDonald 


Jack Mullen
 

This is a former GPEX milk tank car, repurposed after milk traffic largely had left railroads. The Pfaudler glass-lined tanks for milk were also well suited to vinegar and wine, among other commodities.

Jack Mullen


Scott
 

Thanks Jack.  With that information I was able to Google more information on it.  Turns out there is a survivor car at IRM!  Pretty cool.

Thanks
Scott McDonald 


Fritz Milhaupt
 

Richter Vinegar had four of these, painted school bus yellow, from the late 1960s until about 1980. They cycled between an apple processing facility in Scottville, Michigan (about ten miles east of Ludington) and the Richter plant in Manitowoc, Wisconsin. Most of their trip was aboard one of the C&O car ferries across Lake Michigan.

They were RCVX 1316, 2316, 3316 and 4316.

- Fritz Milhaupt


 

Richter 1316

 

 

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Richter Vinegar had four of these, painted school bus yellow, from the late 1960s until about 1980. They cycled between an apple processing facility in Scottville, Michigan (about ten miles east of Ludington) and the Richter plant in Manitowoc, Wisconsin. Most of their trip was aboard one of the C&O car ferries across Lake Michigan.

They were RCVX 1316, 2316, 3316 and 4316.

- Fritz Milhaupt


Chris Barkan
 

Is there any chance that this car in Independence, Iowa is one of these cars?  I have attached some photos taken in Sept 2019.  The odd thing for a milk (or vinegar) car is that it has end doors.   It can be seen in Google Street View at:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.478193,-91.8891952,3a,60y,102.96h,90.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQVJ5Zh7NRy8zPjIFhGVqZQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en

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Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL


Chris Barkan
 

Here are the photos I took.  If it is not one of the cars mentioned above, does anyone have any ideas?
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Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL


 

Looks like an old CB&Q “bomber” boxcar used to haul sections of B29 IIRC. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
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On Jun 6, 2021, at 5:41 PM, Chris Barkan <cplbarkan@...> wrote:

Here are the photos I took.  If it is not one of the cars mentioned above, does anyone have any ideas?
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Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL
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Richard Townsend
 

I believe that is one of the shrouds that the CB&Q put on flat cars during WWII for transport of bomber fuselage assemblies.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Speas Company 50ft car question.

Here are the photos I took.  If it is not one of the cars mentioned above, does anyone have any ideas?
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Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL


mel perry
 

well your photos don't have the side door,
matter of a fact, looks like it lost its exterior sheeting, and the curvature of the roof, appears different?
;-)
mel perry

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021, 3:41 PM Chris Barkan <cplbarkan@...> wrote:
Here are the photos I took.  If it is not one of the cars mentioned above, does anyone have any ideas?
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Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL

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Richard Townsend
 

I just checked my Burlington Bulletins and found the story of these shrouds (applied to CB&Q FM-14 flat cars) as well as plans in BB #15.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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I believe that is one of the shrouds that the CB&Q put on flat cars during WWII for transport of bomber fuselage assemblies.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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Here are the photos I took.  If it is not one of the cars mentioned above, does anyone have any ideas?
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Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL


Douglas Harding
 

Chris I believe that car is a former CBQ boxcar modified for shipping airplane parts.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Barkan
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Is there any chance that this car in Independence, Iowa is one of these cars?  I have attached some photos taken in Sept 2019.  The odd thing for a milk (or vinegar) car is that it has end doors.   It can be seen in Google Street View at:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.478193,-91.8891952,3a,60y,102.96h,90.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQVJ5Zh7NRy8zPjIFhGVqZQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en

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Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL


Charlie Vlk
 

All-
The “car” in question is not a car at all.....it is a CB&Q “bomber box” which was a housing applied to Q flatcars to carry B-29 fuselage sections to final assembly.
There are drawings and a full story in them in a BURLINGTON BULLETIN.  
Many of these were used as storage buildings and a few still survive.
Charlie Vlk


On Jun 6, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Chris Barkan <cplbarkan@...> wrote:

Is there any chance that this car in Independence, Iowa is one of these cars?  I have attached some photos taken in Sept 2019.  The odd thing for a milk (or vinegar) car is that it has end doors.   It can be seen in Google Street View at:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.478193,-91.8891952,3a,60y,102.96h,90.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQVJ5Zh7NRy8zPjIFhGVqZQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en

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Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL


Scott
 

It's rumored there is a CBQ Bomber box with the roof extension being used as storage around Scottsbluff Nebraska.  I haven't been able to find it yet though 

Scott McDonald 


 

They both appear to be on the grouns, i.e. not on trucks. So just being used for storage. Is those grain elevators behind it in photo on right side?
Andy Jackson


Chris Barkan
 

Thanks all for your prompt responses!  Not being a "Q" fan I was unaware of the bomber boxes.  This is a very interesting story.  Thank you for enlightening me!
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Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL


William Hirt
 

At least until a year or two ago, there was one in Brookfield MO (old CB&Q Division Point) near the ready mix plant there.

Bill HIrt

On 6/6/2021 11:28 PM, Scott wrote:
It's rumored there is a CBQ Bomber box with the roof extension being used as storage around Scottsbluff Nebraska.  I haven't been able to find it yet though 

Scott McDonald 
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Google Earth still shows it. Street view, also

 

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 

 

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Date: Monday, June 7, 2021 at 11:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Speas Company 50ft car question.

 

At least until a year or two ago, there was one in Brookfield MO (old CB&Q Division Point) near the ready mix plant there.

Bill HIrt

On 6/6/2021 11:28 PM, Scott wrote:

It's rumored there is a CBQ Bomber box with the roof extension being used as storage around Scottsbluff Nebraska.  I haven't been able to find it yet though 

Scott McDonald