Tangent December: GATC 10, 000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car
A bunch of each? 😉
-Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
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Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 11:02 AM
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Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent December: GATC 10, 000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car
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Many tank cars of that era existed in tiny numbers, like less than 10 cars. And for Tangent and Sinclair (SDRX)
in particular, Proto 2000 did Sinclair tank cars that were completely accurate ACF cars, so a $20 (or less) model
against a $50 GATC model. Nice model, but, if you want a bunch, what will most people buy?
On 12/13/2022 11:16 AM, erict1361@... wrote:
Dave & Group,
Sorry if I was mis understood by my comment. It was in no means a complaint. I have no issues with Tangent and own quite a few of their models. I just made a statement that most of the modelers in this group model Steam era 1920's thru 1955. I agree that the new scheme selection was well thought out, and I am always glad to see any New HO Freight car model released. But it would have been nice to have one or two of the original release paint schemes re-run: Cities Service, Sinclair, GATX, Deep Rock, Union Starch and UTLX cars. Steam Era modelers need these models, since Sunshine no longer exists. I am sure that many 1960's and 1970's Modelers will want the new models. But some of us, myself included, did Not get a chance to purchase the first run, because they sold out so quickly. What I am saying basically is: nice job on the new models, but a couple more common schemes, UTLX, GATX, Sinclar etc. would have sweetened the mix, so to speak.
Eric Thur
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
BTW, as of the 1936 tariff, insulated (TMI) cars were not a major component of the SDRX fleet, to the point where I wouldn't worry about them unless I had a very sizeable model fleet.
Last hint: it's hard to find a photo of a 1920s-era SDRX car with a dome platform on the right side. At least among cars that were built to order for Sinclair. I'd omit it for kits, and try to remove it from RTRs.
YMMV of course.
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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA
Several with dome platforms on the R side here. I agree many photos show no platform on the R side.
On 12/13/2022 7:31 PM, Dave Parker via groups.io wrote:
Hmm, well, Sinclair. Over 6000 cars (all reporting marks) from 1930 to 1945, making it the largest private-owner petroleum fleet in the U.S. If one wanted or needed "a bunch" of 1920s-era cars (and I know at least one modeler who does), I'd think you would want a mix to reflect the fleet's diversity. There were indeed 500 ACF Type 21 TM cars, all 10 kgal and modeled well (if not perfectly) by the old P2000 line. There were 1000 of the GA 1917-design cars in the 8 kgal size, and another 300 in the 10 kgal (Tangent could in theory cover both), and then 500 Penn Tank Car Co. cars (also 8000 gal) for which we still have no model.
BTW, as of the 1936 tariff, insulated (TMI) cars were not a major component of the SDRX fleet, to the point where I wouldn't worry about them unless I had a very sizeable model fleet.
Last hint: it's hard to find a photo of a 1920s-era SDRX car with a dome platform on the right side. At least among cars that were built to order for Sinclair. I'd omit it for kits, and try to remove it from RTRs.
YMMV of course.
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Dave Parker
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA
A Tangent quality PTC tank car would sure be miraculous and wonderful. :-)
On 12/14/2022 11:34 AM, Dave Parker via groups.io wrote:
I agree, but I should have been clearer. It's very had to find a photo of a post-1917, MCB Class III car with both dome platforms. That was really the context I was trying to address, i.e., the available P2000 and Tangent models, and the "missing" Penn Tank Car models..
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Dave Parker
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts