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Tank Car Crazy


ibs4421@...
 

STMer's,
Funny we should have all of these postings on the conductor's book regarding tank cars. I have been trying to assemble a respectable tank car fleet of the P2K kits. I have been trying to acquire as many of the black "plain-jane" cars as possible, mostly SHPX and GATX 'cause I figure those can be used for most any kind of loading/industry. (BTW, I am considering trying to model a portion of the L&N's "Memphis Line" circa '49-'50.)
Aside from all of the "plain-jane" types, a few privately owned gasoline/petroleum product-carrying cars won't hurt. Can anyone tell me if the following brands of gasoline during this time went (or was transported) under another name:

Standard Oil of Indiana
Esso
Pure
Texaco

A gentleman who I am in correspondence with tells me that he remembers these gas/oil brands being handled by a distributor along the line. (Yes, he thought that was odd too.) They also handled Mobil, which I know is covered by the P2K 10K gal. tank car, but I'm not sure if the scheme is correct for my time period.
Did Kanotex sell under another name to the public? I have never seen this brand in any memorabilia, books, etc.
Any help, advice, directions to a website, etc. would be most welcome on my end. Thank you!

Warren Dickinson
At the terminus of the E&GRR
Elkton, Kentucky


Richard Hendrickson
 

Warren Dickinson asks:

....Can anyone tell me if the following brands of gasoline during this
time went (or was transported) under another name:

Standard Oil of Indiana
Esso
Pure
Texaco
Texaco still had a large tank car fleet in the early 1950s operated for
them by General American under TCX reporting marks. Most of the cars used
to transport gasoline to wholesalers had aluminum tanks with black
billboard "Texaco." Standard of Indiana and Esso, being former members of
the Standard Oil monopoly, continued to contract with Union Tank Line for
rail shipments after the Standard monolith was broken up by the courts.
Pure Oil sold their tank car fleet to UTC in the mid-1930s and leased cars
from UTC after that date.

Mobil....I know is covered by the P2K 10K gal. tank car, but I'm not sure
if the scheme is correct for my time period.
the P2K paint scheme is correct for your era, as it is based one early
1950s photos.

Did Kanotex sell under another name to the public? I have never seen
this brand in any memorabilia, books, etc.
Kanotex was an abbreviated form of Kansas-Oklahoma-Texas and AFAIK those
states constituted most of their marketing area; though they may have
strayed a bit further afield than that, I don't think they shipped
petroleum products to destinations east of the Mississippi River.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


ibs4421@...
 

Sensei Richard sez:
Standard of Indiana and Esso, being former members of
the Standard Oil monopoly, continued to contract with Union Tank Line for
rail shipments after the Standard monolith was broken up by the courts.
Pure Oil sold their tank car fleet to UTC in the mid-1930s and leased cars
from UTC after that date.


So, the P2K Type 21 cars with UTLX rreporting marks would be appropriate then? Or perhaps the Intermountain Type 27?

Warren Dickinson
Out where God lost his shoes in the Pennyrile of Kentucky.


Richard Hendrickson
 

Standard of Indiana and Esso, being former members of
the Standard Oil monopoly, continued to contract with Union Tank Line for
rail shipments after the Standard monolith was broken up by the courts.
Pure Oil sold their tank car fleet to UTC in the mid-1930s and leased cars
from UTC after that date.


So, the P2K Type 21 cars with UTLX rreporting marks would be appropriate
then? Or perhaps the Intermountain Type 27?
Though UTL didn't buy Type 21s new, they had a relatively small number
acquired second-hand during and after the depression, and the P2K models
are accurate for those. However, AFAIK, UTL never owned Type 27s at all,
and what we all need are accurate models of 8K and 10K UTL Class X-3s,
which were built in vast numbers for UTL to their own designs in the 1920s.
InterMountain Type 27 tanks could be used to model the later X-3s with
larger domes but the distinctive UTL underframes remain a problem. There
has been talk about making these in resin but it hasn't come to anything
yet. Sooner or later, we'll get accurate models of X-3s because the
prototypes were too numerous to ignore. Meanwhile, I'll bet you've got
plenty of other unbuilt kits in your closet to keep you busy, n'est ce pas?


Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


ibs4421@...
 

Meanwhile, I'll bet you've got
plenty of other unbuilt kits in your closet to keep you busy, n'est ce pas?


Jawohl!!

Warren Dickinson